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Thomas Q. Dangerpants, esq
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sarah55555 wrote:
Dake wrote:
for you, the list is bigger, so i don't envy you.

are there any people that you are striking off your list? like i have struck off halden. possibly erroneously.

i'm firmly lost. what say you, sarah?


out of the bunch, i feel the best about tommy


Hey, me too! laugh
 
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Dake... I just don't know. He immediately called Saber being evil when he dropped a third meta on him... He's been a little pingy and weird around lynches, but that's not out of the ordinary.

I feel good on him overall, but I can't explain why. I think maybe it's been his calling for an all claim constantly and I think he has been trying to wolf hunt pretty well.
 
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This is my personal ordered list:

Dan
Saraxsr/Urza
Eddie
Adiamant
Dake
Halden
 
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[vote Dan]

Putting my vote where my mouth is, for now.
 
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Player (13/17) - # - Voted by

Urza47 - 3 - Melriken(2), Dake(5), TommyDanger(6), Vox_Dargard(10), Saraxsr(12), Saraxsr(13), halden(14), halden(15)
danldan2 - 3 - eddie_drood(3), Melriken(7), TommyDanger(8), Urza47(16), TommyDanger(20)
TommyDanger - 2 - danldan2(4), Melriken(9), Urza47(11)
Saraxsr - 2 - bwt2q(17), TommyDanger(18), Vox_Dargard(19)
Melriken - 0 - Melriken(1)

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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

bwt2q - 1 - Saraxsr(17)
Dake - 1 - Urza47(5)
danldan2 - 1 - TommyDanger(4)
eddie_drood - 1 - danldan2(3)
halden - 2 - Urza47(14), Urza47(15)
Melriken - 4 - Melriken(1), Urza47(2), danldan2(7), TommyDanger(9)
Saraxsr - 2 - Urza47(12), Urza47(13)
TommyDanger - 4 - Urza47(6), danldan2(8), Saraxsr(18), danldan2(20)
Urza47 - 2 - TommyDanger(11), danldan2(16)
Vox_Dargard - 2 - Urza47(10), Saraxsr(19)

Not Voting: adiamant, sarah55555, StatSig
 
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Tommy, I'm a little annoyed with you. How are we not lynching urza today? Instead, we're gonna detough another person. I don't think this is the right move. I say we lynch urza and tell him to brutal dan. Hedge our bets.
 
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[vote urza]
 
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Player (13/17) - # - Voted by

Urza47 - 4 - Melriken(2), Dake(5), TommyDanger(6), Vox_Dargard(10), Saraxsr(12), Saraxsr(13), halden(14), halden(15), sarah55555(21)
danldan2 - 3 - eddie_drood(3), Melriken(7), TommyDanger(8), Urza47(16), TommyDanger(20)
TommyDanger - 2 - danldan2(4), Melriken(9), Urza47(11)
Saraxsr - 2 - bwt2q(17), TommyDanger(18), Vox_Dargard(19)
Melriken - 0 - Melriken(1)

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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

bwt2q - 1 - Saraxsr(17)
Dake - 1 - Urza47(5)
danldan2 - 1 - TommyDanger(4)
eddie_drood - 1 - danldan2(3)
halden - 2 - Urza47(14), Urza47(15)
Melriken - 4 - Melriken(1), Urza47(2), danldan2(7), TommyDanger(9)
sarah55555 - 1 - Urza47(21)
Saraxsr - 2 - Urza47(12), Urza47(13)
TommyDanger - 4 - Urza47(6), danldan2(8), Saraxsr(18), danldan2(20)
Urza47 - 2 - TommyDanger(11), danldan2(16)
Vox_Dargard - 2 - Urza47(10), Saraxsr(19)

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sarah55555 wrote:
Tommy, I'm a little annoyed with you. How are we not lynching urza today? Instead, we're gonna detough another person. I don't think this is the right move. I say we lynch urza and tell him to brutal dan. Hedge our bets.


I agree that's our best way to guarantee we find out Urza's role. If everybody wants to do that, I'm down.

I'm just getting cold feet on thinking he's evil because of Dan and Saraxr's behavior, and I don't like lynching good people.

If one of the two (depending on if we aim at Dan or Saraxr) is a wolf, we position ourselves better going forward by doing my idea, I think. The downfall is if they hit bwt, we don't know which one was the wolf.

 
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TommyDanger wrote:
There is absolutely a wolf in Urza/Dan/Saraxsr.

I obviously thought it was Urza, although Dan and Saraxsr's weird behavior has me doubting myself. Enough people think Urza is good, and Dan in particular looks to be trying to set him and me up here, that I think moving to Dan is a good bet.

I will also move to Saraxsr, but I feel more strongly on Dan.

I will also stay on Urza if we decide that, but I'm feeling really wrong on that now that Dan has seemed just ridiculously pingy lately.

All three of them opposed the Saber lynch, which is part of it. Dan specifically looks to have opposed it, then jumped onto it as the best plan after the discussion started to support LV-seer.

I think some form of my loop-closing brutal plan is still a good idea.


i think i definitely agree with the bolded. i do want to stay on urza instead of de-toughing dan and getting no info.
 
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i think i feel good about you, tommy. i'm gonna trust you... for today at least.
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Dake wrote:
i think i feel good about you, tommy. i'm gonna trust you... for today at least.


Thank you, you won't be sorry for that I promise.

We really need to hear from everybody tomorrow (obviously it's the weekend, I don't mean to insinuate people aren't around or anything).
 
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I'm actually not going to be around for a good portion of tomorrow, but I'll do what I can. I will be back prior to lynch at least. You have more of my thoughts than anybody cared for, I'm sure, so assume I'd say most of the same stuff.
 
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[vote danldan2]
 
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VOTE TALLY

Player (13/17) - # - Voted by

Urza47 - 4 - Melriken(2), Dake(5), TommyDanger(6), Vox_Dargard(10), Saraxsr(12), Saraxsr(13), halden(14), halden(15), sarah55555(21)
danldan2 - 4 - eddie_drood(3), Melriken(7), TommyDanger(8), Urza47(16), TommyDanger(20), Vox_Dargard(22)
TommyDanger - 2 - danldan2(4), Melriken(9), Urza47(11)
Saraxsr - 1 - bwt2q(17), TommyDanger(18), Vox_Dargard(19)
Melriken - 0 - Melriken(1)

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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

bwt2q - 1 - Saraxsr(17)
Dake - 1 - Urza47(5)
danldan2 - 1 - TommyDanger(4)
eddie_drood - 1 - danldan2(3)
halden - 2 - Urza47(14), Urza47(15)
Melriken - 4 - Melriken(1), Urza47(2), danldan2(7), TommyDanger(9)
sarah55555 - 1 - Urza47(21)
Saraxsr - 2 - Urza47(12), Urza47(13)
TommyDanger - 4 - Urza47(6), danldan2(8), Saraxsr(18), danldan2(20)
Urza47 - 2 - TommyDanger(11), danldan2(16)
Vox_Dargard - 3 - Urza47(10), Saraxsr(19), danldan2(22)

Not Voting: adiamant, StatSig
 
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Dake wrote:
TommyDanger wrote:
There is absolutely a wolf in Urza/Dan/Saraxsr.
i think i definitely agree. i do want to stay on urza instead of de-toughing dan and getting no info.


I agree too!

[Vote Urza47]

 
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Player (13/17) - # - Voted by

Urza47 - 5 - Melriken(2), Dake(5), TommyDanger(6), Vox_Dargard(10), Saraxsr(12), Saraxsr(13), halden(14), halden(15), sarah55555(21), Melriken(23)
danldan2 - 4 - eddie_drood(3), Melriken(7), TommyDanger(8), Urza47(16), TommyDanger(20), Vox_Dargard(22)
TommyDanger - 1 - danldan2(4), Melriken(9), Urza47(11)
Saraxsr - 1 - bwt2q(17), TommyDanger(18), Vox_Dargard(19)
Melriken - 0 - Melriken(1)

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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

bwt2q - 1 - Saraxsr(17)
Dake - 1 - Urza47(5)
danldan2 - 1 - TommyDanger(4)
eddie_drood - 1 - danldan2(3)
halden - 2 - Urza47(14), Urza47(15)
Melriken - 5 - Melriken(1), Urza47(2), danldan2(7), TommyDanger(9), Urza47(23)
sarah55555 - 1 - Urza47(21)
Saraxsr - 2 - Urza47(12), Urza47(13)
TommyDanger - 4 - Urza47(6), danldan2(8), Saraxsr(18), danldan2(20)
Urza47 - 2 - TommyDanger(11), danldan2(16)
Vox_Dargard - 3 - Urza47(10), Saraxsr(19), danldan2(22)

Not Voting: adiamant, StatSig
 
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sarah55555's word

Seer
- lvoverride (mel,saber)
Aux Seer - sarah55555(bwt,vox,stat,mel)
Hunter -
D-Priest -
N-Priest - bwt2q (uncountered)
Villager(Tinker) - metzjames
Villager - Dekal

Villager -
Villager -
Villager -
Villager -

Werewolf - saberwolf13
Werewolf -
Werewolf -
Sorcerer - Aux Sorcerer - Cursed Cultist - mel,stat,vox

remaining players:
adiamant
Dake**
danldan2**
eddie_drood
halden
Saraxsr**
TommyDanger
Urza47*

*Detough (we have 3 or 4, only one known for sure)
**Possibly detough
 
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StatSig's word

Seer
- lvoverride (mel,saber)
Aux Seer - StatSig({bwt,adiam,mel,sarah55555)
Hunter -
D-Priest -
N-Priest -
Villager(Tinker) - metzjames
Villager - Dekal

Villager -
Villager -
Villager -
Villager -

Werewolf - saberwolf13
Werewolf -
Werewolf -
Sorcerer - Aux Sorcerer - Cursed Cultist - mel,sarah55555,bwt2q

remaining players:
adiamant
Dake**
danldan2**
eddie_drood
halden
Saraxsr**
TommyDanger
Urza47*
Vox

*Detough (we have 3 or 4, only one known for sure)
**Possibly detough
 
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Now, some comments.

StatSig's word is not coherent. There we have a bwt2q AuxEvil, while he declared (uncountered) day priest.

So, I believe sarah55555's world is the one we are in.

Regardless the world we are in, our AuxSeer has already found the 3 Aux Evils. So, from now on, we may count our AuxSeer just as a villager.

I feel like we should kill Urza (leaving the fewest detoughed around).

Then we should discuss two things.
 
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1st: we are now 9 Goods vs 2 wolves and 3 AuxEvils.

We kill Urza.

If Urza's a wolf we are down to 9 Goods vs 1 wolf and 3 AuxEvils. Then evil ones get a brutal and a night kill, and so they might kill one or two of us:
we are down to 8/7 Goods vs 1 wolf and 3 AuxEvils. In this case we get 1 or 2 brutals.

If Urza's good we are down to 8 Goods vs 2 wolves and 3 AuxEvils. Wolves get a night kill, and so they might kill one of us:
we are down to 8/7 Goods vs 2 wolf and 3 AuxEvils. If a good was killed, we get another brutal.

In any situation, we are going to get 1 or 2 brutals. We can set them all on the same player, or on 2 players, I feel.
 
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2nd. So, where should we set brutals?

Possibility 1: closing the brutal chain. We set them off on Urza,and nothing happens.

Possibility 2: we go wolf hunting. We choose one of the unknown people and we try to kill him/her.

Possibility 3: we kill a known AuxEvil. So far the only we are 100% sure of is Mel.

Possibility 4: we try to discover which is the world we are leaving in,and kill either Stat or sarah. (I obviously suggest Stat).

Possibility 5: everyone goes wolf hunting the way he feels most.

Pros/Cons of the possibilities.

1. No brutal chain happens (but we lose 2 brutals). Bad, to me.

2. Brutal chain only of lengh 1. We could get a wolf (and even win, if Urza was a wolf). But we could even lose our DayPriest...

3. Brutal chain only of lengh 1. We help keeping vote majority. But we wont get a wolf, this way. (and of course, Mel gets a brutal; but he does not know who the wolves are going to kill -- nor who the wolves actually are)

4. Brutal chain only of lengh 1. We get infos. If we are lucky, we kill an AuxEvil (and probably detough the AuxSeer). If we are not, the other way around. But anyhow, the AuxSeer is just as a villager, for us, now.

5. This way everyone uses most of his infos. But we could start a brutal chain and we are not getting much infos (nor the wolves, indeed).
 
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I think we should discuss that.

And also, we should discuss if you want to keep your votes/brutals off me, or if you want me to full claim...
 
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With this

Saraxsr wrote:

remaining players:
adiamant
Dake**
danldan2**
eddie_drood
halden
Saraxsr**
TommyDanger
Urza47*
Vox

*Detough (we have 3 or 4, only one known for sure)
**Possibly detough


Possibly detough just meant from Dekal... We have not the slightest idea of where the wolves' 1 or 2 detough(s) went.
 
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Saraxsr wrote:
Now, some comments.

StatSig's word is not coherent. There we have a bwt2q AuxEvil, while he declared (uncountered) day priest.

So, I believe sarah55555's world is the one we are in.

Regardless the world we are in, our AuxSeer has already found the 3 Aux Evils. So, from now on, we may count our AuxSeer just as a villager.

I feel like we should kill Urza (leaving the fewest detoughed around).

Then we should discuss two things.


Of course, I meant uncountered nigth priest.
 
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