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Ammon Livingston
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I need your help out there! I have been a euro/ameritrash gamer for years and enjoy just about any game you put in front of me. Recently my awesome wife bought me Twilight Struggle and we both fell in love with it instantly!

So here is my question...

What is the next step? What would be a good wargame for us to try? Is there an awesome 'first' wargame that is a must own? (Sorry, that's more than one question!)

We both love history in general but my favorite would have to be more recent (WWI, WWII, etc.), so that isn't an issue. We are also OK with a reasonable amount of depth. I certainly don't want to get in over my head and struggle to grasp new concepts but I do very thorough research and love reading rules so I'm sure I could figure it out! Also, we like all different mechanics: dice, cards, the works!

I want to learn what this whole wargame thing is about, it sounds like it's right up my alley !
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Robert Wesley
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While if the REVAMP for Fortress America was available "Like" it ought to have BEEN by now, then I'd suggest THAT, so, until then?
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Pete Belli
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Welcome to a fascinating segment of the board game hobby!

Napoleon at Waterloo is a good introduction to traditional hex-and-counter wargames. It is available free on the internet.

Battle for Germany is a good introductory game with a WWII theme.

Block games with cards are fun. Julius Caesar is often recommended as a starting point.

Good Luck!
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Check out this list of Starter Wargames.
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Kent Reuber
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For a first WWII game, I'd recommend Tank on Tank. It's a simple game with low counter density, and plays quickly but it has some nice mechanics.
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Ammon Livingston
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Awesome! Thank you guys for your help, I will be checking your suggestions out!
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Greg Wajda
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Memoir '44?

Don't know if that counts as a 'real' wargame, but alot of people enjoy it.
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I've played Memoir '44 many times and really enjoy it! I'm looking for something...I don't know...meatier...something that is typical of 'wargames'. Maybe Memoir '44 is typical of wargames, and in that case my question is 'What is the next step?'
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AudreyLivi wrote:
I've played Memoir '44 many times and really enjoy it! I'm looking for something...I don't know...meatier...something that is typical of 'wargames'. Maybe Memoir '44 is typical of wargames, and in that case my question is 'What is the next step?'

I'd go with one of Pete Belli's suggestions above. (Unless you want something much more complex.) Those are great wargames.
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Thom0909
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Already played Twilight Struggle? That's more complex than some of the starter games mentioned. Then again, it's possibly not a war-game.

You could try something like No Retreat! The Russian Front, which is still fairly broad in scope but more wargamish than TS.
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Erik Syvertsen
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Case Blue.

I'm so sorry. I couldn't help myself.
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Twilight Struggle was also my first foray into wargames. The two other games that I instantly loved as well were Paths of Glory and Here I Stand. Hope this helps.
 
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I would go with Battle for Moscow, from the GDW folks as of 1986. It used to be free, but not any more. You can still find it pretty reasonably on line. I really like air games myself, but Buffalo Wings, from JD Webster, is kind of a challenge for a new gamer. If you're up to it, then go for it!
 
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paradoxes wrote:
Case Blue.

I'm so sorry. I couldn't help myself.


And if that's just too small, size-wise, and too short, time-wise, there's always: Unentschieden, Drang Nach Osten, War in the East, Scorched Earth (? GDW wargame on the Eastern Front), North African Campaign, and War in the Pacific. Feel proud of your masochismo!
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Ammon Livingston
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You guys are the best!! Thank you for all your suggestions! I certainly have my research cut out for me
 
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