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Mark Chen
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my wife just pointed out to me that all survivors are white. I hadn't noticed! I suppose during painting, one could make some of them of various ethnicities.
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Fritz Mulnar
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there is samuel jackson on the way.
but apart from that, you are propably right. same with most video games. shake
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El Duderino
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Kyoko is Japanese, El Cholo is Mexican, and Marvin is black.
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Jonah Rees
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Have you seen Night of the Living Dead......

In seriousness though this is something that I've noticed about lots of games and I always paint some miniatures as African/African-Caribbean and I will be doing this with the zombies as well as one or two of the survivors. As El Duderino points out there are characters from ethnic minorities although none are from the base game.
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Pete aka The Masked Minstrel
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In a zombie apocalypse, all meat is red.
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David Knepper
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squallgoku wrote:
In a zombie apocalypse, all meat is red.



And brainzzz, grey! devil zombie
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foksieloy
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Seeing as there is 12% black population in USA, and only 4% in France (which I think the the game authors homeland), the ratio of black survivors is about right.
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Stephen G Roy
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Fan-created material can make up for this discrepancy.
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Stuart Holttum
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How many non-whites do we have reading this thread?
 
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Stu Holttum wrote:
How many non-whites do we have reading this thread?


Hi.






Also, speaking of race and zombies, I present the following:




Key & Peele is my jam!
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John Ling

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To zombies, you are either white meat or dark meat.
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WakkaWakkatronic wrote:
Kyoko is Japanese, El Cholo is Mexican, and Marvin is black.


El Cholo and Marvin were Kickstarter only. Most buyers will never see them.

I emailed the makers the same concern during the Kickstarter and they really didn't say anything other then "not really look at El Cholo".

So yeah, it's a pretty bizzarely homogeneous group especially for a major city.
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Magic Pink wrote:
WakkaWakkatronic wrote:
Kyoko is Japanese, El Cholo is Mexican, and Marvin is black.


El Cholo and Marvin were Kickstarter only. Most buyers will never see them.

I emailed the makers the same concern during the Kickstarter and they really didn't say anything other then "not really look at El Cholo".

So yeah, it's a pretty bizzarely homogeneous group especially for a major city.




I don't get your "We don't have them, so they don't count." argument.

They exist and were made for play in the game.

Out of the 9 survivors that are currently out there, 2 of them are non-white ethnicities. That's 22%. Almost 1/4 isn't super homogenous.

And I forgot about Claudia, who appears to be hispanic as well.

And me, personally, I banished Dave and replaced himwith a half-Polish/Palestinian geek.
 
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Cory J
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I always assumed Amy was Asian, but i might be wrong.
 
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foksieloy
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Looking at the tileset, it is all but a major city.
 
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Doc Hogan
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And what cries of racism/bigotry would've been raised if they'd included some 'banger with a gat?

You just can't please everyone.
 
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The Dave
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dochogan wrote:
And what cries of racism/bigotry would've been raised if they'd included some 'banger with a gat?

You just can't please everyone.


Why would an African-American figure necessarily be a "banger with a gat?" Couldn't it have been a rising legal star? A pedatrician? A teacher? shake
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foksieloy
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Or you could include interesting character concepts regardless of race.

Which is what they did.
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Jonah Rees
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Or you are free to paint your miniatures how you feel rather than sticking with the original artwork. And if you're not painting then you are free to make up your own characters which Guillotine have made very easy to do with the free availability of the character sheets.
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Doc Hogan
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whattheproblemis wrote:
dochogan wrote:
And what cries of racism/bigotry would've been raised if they'd included some 'banger with a gat?

You just can't please everyone.


Why would an African-American figure necessarily be a "banger with a gat?" Couldn't it have been a rising legal star? A pedatrician? A teacher? shake


Why a Latino with machetes?

Because it's thematic.
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Stephen G Roy
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"My pricey designer special board game doesn't have diversity"

First World problems....
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