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So can anyone tell me what 'PAX MAGNIFICA BELLUM GLORIOSUM' actually means? I always assumed it meant 'Magnificent Peace, Glorious War.'
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That's right.
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Tretiak wrote:
That's right.


Cool beans!
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RhinoBarbarian wrote:
So can anyone tell me what 'PAX MAGNIFICA BELLUM GLORIOSUM' actually means? I always assumed it meant 'Magnificent Peace, Glorious War.'

While I think that definition is probably accurate (I'm not a Latin speaker), I saw someone take a loose interpretation of it as:

"Peace is magnificent, but war is glorious" or "Peace is good, war is better"
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I'm not expert in latin either but doesn't "War is glorious" should write something like "GLORIOSUM BELLUM EST"?
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Arael wrote:
I'm not expert in latin either but doesn't "War is glorious" should write something like "GLORIOSUM BELLUM EST"?

I have no idea; even if so, I'm pretty sure the person just meant it as a very loose interpretation, possibly even tongue-in-cheek
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haha, so bad, I had Latin in high school for like 5 years, and totally have no clue anymore blush

I always assumed (didn't check though) it ment something like "A magnificent peace through a glorious war"

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sigmazero13 wrote:
RhinoBarbarian wrote:
So can anyone tell me what 'PAX MAGNIFICA BELLUM GLORIOSUM' actually means? I always assumed it meant 'Magnificent Peace, Glorious War.'

While I think that definition is probably accurate (I'm not a Latin speaker), I saw someone take a loose interpretation of it as:

"Peace is magnificent, but war is glorious" or "Peace is good, war is better"


I am pretty sure, that this translation is very much what is being meant, even though it is not accurately translated by the letter (the Latin version missing the verbs).
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Speaking as someone who teaches Latin and Ancient Greek ...

An actual Latin speaker would frequently leave out forms of esse or "to be" in his sentences, following the Greek model that used the predicate position for these sorts of sentences and avoided the linking verb (which Greeks barely considered a real word).

All that means is that an English-speaker should feel perfectly comfortable in supplying the "is" in each of the bits in the phrase on the box. That said, I'm not sure that the addition of the English "but" is called for here, as the Latin word gloriosus, -a, -um is not, in my experience, anyway, more powerful or important than magnificus, -a, -um. Etymologically, the former suggests something that provides praise or fame, while the latter is something that makes one greater, or "magnifies" one.

Hope that helps.

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