Chris Sulat
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Today we played a match of Zaamassal vs Seth and a couple of questions came up.

First can Zaamassal use the After Activation effects of a paradigm that he has set up during the After Activation phase?

e.g. Zaamassal starts the turn with Paradigm of Fluidity and hits the opponent with a Malicious attack. During the After Activation step can he 1) Move up to 1 space with Fluidity then 2) assume Paradigm of Pain with Malicious then 3) Activate Paradigm of Pain to inflict an additional 2 wounds as he hit this beat? Alternatively does he have to choose between the effect on Pain or Fluidity? Or is there no choice?

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Secondly a really weird situation came up. Zaamassal played Paradigm Shift (I can't remember the style) and Seth played Wyrding Dash. Naturally Seth predicted Zaamassal's base. Seth's player argued the following:

1) Seth's priority was higher and so should get to activate his Start of Beat effect first.
2) He chose a new base that resulted in a priority tie - causing a clash.
3) Because there is now a clash Zaamassal will need to choose a new base and will thus be "cheated" out of assuming a new Paradigm.
4) The clash ends and we rechecked priority (remembering to include the +2 because Seth got his initial guess right). In new priority order characters could perform Start of Beat effects (i.e. retreat during a burst) and the beat continues as normal with the newest priority.

Was this the correct order of play (this was how we played it but it took a bit of time to agree to this as the match was getting close)?

All in all it was a great match between new players! Seth will never again make the mistake of starting with a Burst when Zaamassal is his opponent! (Zaamassal also played burst and so each was at the opposite end of the arena from the other and naturally Paradigm of Distortion had been the first one played...).

As always thank you a lot for your replies!
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Yaron Racah
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ChimpMasaki wrote:
First can Zaamassal use the After Activation effects of a paradigm that he has set up during the After Activation phase?

Yes, that works.

ChimpMasaki wrote:
Secondly a really weird situation came up. Zaamassal played Paradigm Shift (I can't remember the style) and Seth played Wyrding Dash. Naturally Seth predicted Zaamassal's base. Seth's player argued the following:

1) Seth's priority was higher and so should get to activate his Start of Beat effect first.
2) He chose a new base that resulted in a priority tie - causing a clash.


Priority is only checked once - between the Reveal phase and the Start of beat Phase. That's the only time a clash can happen.
Once priority is compared (and any clashes resolved), the active player (i.e., the player that goes first) is set for the beat, and cannot change because of further changes to priority.

So in your situation, Seth would be named active player. He would go first in the Start of Beat phase, but when he switches his base, he would still be active player, no matter how low his priority is, and there would be no clash. After Seth is done with all his Start of Beat effects, Zaamassal would get to activate his effects, including the paradigm change. Then the beat would continue as normal (with Seth as the active player).
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Thank you for the reply!

By manipulating which bases he plays before and after predicting his opponent Seth can play some really cool priority tricks! devil
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