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Keith Scholes
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I have recently bought a copy of the base game and was wondering if it is worthwhile trying to buy a second copy, assuming that I can get hold of one ,in order to have enough blocks to play larger scale games in the future. Has anybody done this or are there any other reasons for buying a second copy? Obviously if there is no good reason to do so then I can save myself £50 or so but I am willing to spend the money if it future proofs the game against a time when the base set becomes totally unavailable as seems to be the case wih some of the C&C:A expansions.

Thanks in advance for your advice.
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Evil Bob
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Currently there's no reason to buy an additional base set, since an epic version of the game would be at least another year away.

The C&C:Ancients base set keeps getting reprinted and I'm suspecting that the C&C:Nappy base set will be the same. Sure, some of the expansions might be slower to reprint but the base set is a requirement to play the game so it will always become available again.


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Bob Hansen
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If they go with the model that was used for Commands & Colors: Ancients for Epic, it will only require one base set.

From the page on Commands & Colors: Ancients Expansion Pack #5 – Epic Ancients II:

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Important: In order to play the scenarios in the Commands & Colors: Ancients Expansion Pack #5 – Epic Ancients II expansion, you will need a copy of the basic Commands & Colors: Ancients game and the other expansions, especially Expansion #1 Greece and the Eastern Kingdoms. The other expansions will be very useful: Expansion #2 Rome vs The Barbarians, and Expansion #3 The Roman Civil Wars.
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Kent Reuber
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I bought a second set to play Epic or to play tournaments. The Epic rules that I got from Richard Borg uses a long narrow board as does ancients. We played a game combining both Salamanca wing scenarios.

The one thing that's different about Napoleonics than Ancients is that Ancients includes more than one Roman army which can be combined, and you have Barbarian/Carthage/Eastern blocks that can be combined to form a combined Epic game. With Napoleonics, there's no other armies to fill the gaps; so I'd use two Napoleonics sets. I'll probably buy 2 sets of Russians as well. I can't see having multiple Spanish, Prussian or Austrian sets.
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I have a second set for home-grown Epic games, too. Even a second set of Spanish! I've been using using a set I put together myself that's derived from the Ancients game.

Kent, that's cool that you have a set of Epic rules from Richard himself for covering Napoleonics.
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Padraic Kirby
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I expect the "Grand Battle" game will be different from the Ancients Epic format. Napoleonic warfare emphasized the deep battlefield with reserves and flank manoeuvres. The game could require possibly 4 boards. I hope so, anyway.

Pat


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Strange as it may seem there are some people who apparently don't like this game (there is no accounting for taste!) I've picked up a second hand copy for a friend at a "Bring and Buy" at a wargame event and since then I've seen a couple more appear at similiar events priced at between £20-£25 here in the UK
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I was going to say yesterday, but I agree with Andy. The OP could probably find a second-hand set for less or maybe even acquire one in trade, if cost is a deciding issue.
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kentreuber wrote:
The Epic rules that I got from Richard Borg uses a long narrow board as does ancients. We played a game combining both Salamanca wing scenarios.


Can you share these rules?
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Luke Morris
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I have looked at pictures of players putting two Napoleonics boards together for makeshift "Epic" battles and must admit that it looks weird to have such a long, shallow battlefield. As agrippa said, atht eitme, battles were played out with more depth, reserves, different "layers" of troops manouvering, advancing, flanking etc rather than two lines of men clashing with each other along a long, bloody line.
 
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battles were played out with more depth, reserves, different "layers" of troops manouvering


For more depth boards, CCNapo (also Battlecry and CCA) rules are not optimal, because most INF moves only 1 hex (except with a few cards).

In Memoir 44 e.g., all INF can move always 2 hex, so the depth breakthrough boards works good there.

But maybe we get some additional terrain like roads in future, on which all units can move more hexes, then it could works better.
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True. Roads would certainly add to some strategy, taking and holding the parts of the board where movement is faster.
 
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Padraic Kirby
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Maybe the Epic Deck will take care of Operational movement on deeper boards and approaches on the flank roads. Got to give those Light Cav brigades something to do screening flanks.
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