Urban Sprawl » General » 3d building project

Author: PaulGrogan
Rather than keep posting on the Release date thread, I have started a new one.

Unable to find 18mm square dowel, I have purchased a strip of wood which is 6mm x 18mm x 8 foot long.

With a mitre saw, I'm going to cut this into 18mm and 36mm lengths and then stack up the pieces to make the buildings. Might even have the first picture this weekend.
Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:47 pm
Author: Orangemoose
Looking forward to the pictures
Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:42 pm
Author: PaulGrogan
Here are the results of a weekends bit of work.

First of all, I spent a while thinking how to do this. 18mm was the measurement I needed, 20mm would have been too much. So I bought a strip of wood which was 18mm x 6mm x 8ft long.




The plan was to cut this into 18mm and 36mm lengths


and then stack them up to make buildings of a variety of heights.



Once these were done, I could put them together and it might look like this.



All of this was done with my dads saw:




However, there were some problems. The saw was cutting them a bit too rough, with a fair bit of damage being caused. Also, it was tricky to get them exact, which means a building 6 floors high just wasnt going to look straight on the edge as each piece was a slightly different size.

So... plan B


This is a shelf from a cabinet I no longer have, but I tend to hoard wood in my garage. Luckily, it was 18mm wide!

So, I cut a strip that was 18 wide:



Then, from this strip, I cut lengths.



Putting lengths together would get me my 4-lot buildings:


And then many hours of cutting later.....




Next step. Gluing and Sanding....
Mon Aug 1, 2011 10:08 am
Author: nunyabisnas
you know, if you'd drop these images into your personally gallery, it'd be a lot easier to view them in sequence.
Mon Aug 1, 2011 10:45 am
Author: PaulGrogan
Didnt know about that feature. I'll try and do that now.

Edit: Ok, worked it out. All pics now uploaded to my gallery.
Mon Aug 1, 2011 12:17 pm
Author: nunyabisnas
looks like you're making some pretty good progress. i can't wait to see the finished product. best of luck =-)
Mon Aug 1, 2011 12:29 pm
Author: curtc
PaulGrogan wrote:
All pics now uploaded to my gallery.

Point is, you can make (or edit) a post such that the pictures show up in the post itself, no clicking required.
Mon Aug 1, 2011 3:35 pm
Author: PaulGrogan
All done. Thanks for the help
Mon Aug 1, 2011 4:55 pm
Author: PaulGrogan
Decision Time again.....

How to colour the buildings. Simply painting them isnt going to work. Some of the edges are a bit rough, and also some are already painted (because it was an old shelf), so those sides will paint ok, but the wood side wont look right.

Option 1 is to fully paint all the buildings in a thick gloss. This will take ages and be very messy and require multiple coats. When done, then I can paint the buildings the right colour.

Option 2. Forget painting them. Print off something on my nice colour laser jet printer - a strip of the same height of the building, and then wrap it around the wood, gluing it on so it sticks completely. I'm leaning toward this idea and will experiment with a simple design, but if it works, I'm going to be looking for images of buildings to make it look like an actual real building. Of course, I still want it to have quite a bit of colour so that the type of building is fairly clear. Opinions welcome
Wed Aug 3, 2011 6:52 pm
Author: scrotty
PaulGrogan wrote:
Decision Time again.....

How to colour the buildings. Simply painting them isnt going to work. Some of the edges are a bit rough, and also some are already painted (because it was an old shelf), so those sides will paint ok, but the wood side wont look right.

Option 1 is to fully paint all the buildings in a thick gloss. This will take ages and be very messy and require multiple coats. When done, then I can paint the buildings the right colour.

Try rubbing wood glue on the end grain (rough) wood and perhaps sand with a fine grit after it dries if necessary. This might be all you need to do and it won't take as much time as the thick gloss option.
Wed Aug 3, 2011 7:01 pm
Author: pitferret
You could print images of building surfaces on sticky label sheets and just stick them on. Tint them the colors of the buildings, etc. Sounds like a fun project you have going! Keep the pictures coming!
Thu Aug 4, 2011 2:06 am
Author: PaulGrogan
Thats what I was thinking. I already have some sheets of A4 laser printer full sheet labels, so just need a nice building design. If anyone has one, please let me know.
Thu Aug 4, 2011 7:34 am
Author: PaulGrogan
UPDATE TIME.....

One decision has now been made. I am not going to paint the buildings. Instead, I am going to print out images I have found on various websites and stick them to the sides of the buildings. I have done this over the last couple of days and I am very happy with the results.

However, another decision now needs to be made...

a) I just print out the building sides in their original colour. This will make all the buildings look a 'realistic' colour and just have the building tops (i.e the pieces that come with the actual game) to indicate the zone of the building.

b) Print out the building sides with a colour overlay to match the colour of the building. This will make it easier to identify which zone the building is in from the side.

I've read the rules a couple of times now, but cant work out which will be best. I also am undecided about which 'looks' best. I stuck on the non-colour sides last night, looked at them and thought that my decision was made. However, I made up some this morning with the coloured sides and thought they looked pretty good too.

Opinions welcome.










Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:21 am
Author: randywarner
I vote for colored sides.
Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:54 pm
Author: pitferret
Very nice!I prefer the "natural" looking set with just the colored roof, but they both look great.
Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:26 pm
Author: StevenE
I agree... stay with only the tops being colored.
Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:24 pm
Author: MintMMs
I vote for the colored sides. I think if it was just the tops, I'd need to stand up to see what was on the far side of the board.
Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:39 am
Author: pitferret
MintMMs wrote:
I vote for the colored sides. I think if it was just the tops, I'd need to stand up to see what was on the far side of the board.


You'll have to anyway. Some of the shorter buildings will be hidden behind the taller ones no matter where you sit at the table, I'm betting. But they sure look cool!
Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:43 am
Author: PaulGrogan
And since I found out yesterday that my copy is on its way, I'm now planning to complete these over the next few days. I've done about 20 so far, and it took ages
Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:07 am
Author: PaulGrogan
The game arrived yesterday at work. I went straight to the games club after work, so just played the game out of the box. Plus, my buildings are not finished yet.

But even still, I couldnt wait to set them up. First of all, I am fully aware these are going to impact on gameplay so need for people to tell me this. The good news is they look awesome.

Here are some prelimary photos:




In these photos, you will see that I haven't yet stuck labels onto the sides of many of the buildings, it is just the plain wood.

Also, the building tops are not stuck on, just placed. I was intending to stick them on. However, despite me cutting the buildings to the right size, the tops overlap a bit and this doesnt look good.

So, my plan is to scan in the building tops, print them out ever so slightly smaller, and then stick them on to the tops. This way, I can still play the game without the 3d buildings if anyone objects.

Now to get sticking the rest of the sides.
Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:19 pm
Author: slinkydink
Love it!
Thanks for sharing. Looks great!
Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:55 pm
Author: mark_biggar
One comment. LEGOs
Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:20 pm
Author: Chad Jensen
I don't think base 3/4" Lego bricks are available.
Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:49 pm
Author: clydeiii
I have never been interested in sawing wood until this post...
Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:58 pm
Author: mark_biggar
Chad Jensen wrote:
I don't think base 3/4" Lego bricks are available.


A standard 2x4 lego brick is 1 1/4" x 5/8" or 32 x 16 mm
Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:41 pm
Author: Chad Jensen
Right: the square lots onto which the buildings are placed are 3/4" square. Standard Lego dimensions create a mismatch.
Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:23 pm
Author: abodi
Anyone had other ideas for a less time consuming version. It just looks so awesome
Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:38 pm
Author: mark_biggar
Chad Jensen wrote:
Right: the square lots onto which the buildings are placed are 3/4" square. Standard Lego dimensions create a mismatch.


a 2x2 square Lego brick is 5/8x5/8 and fits fine in a 3/4x3/4 square with a little gap around the edges.
Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:39 pm
Author: Malacandra
abodi wrote:
Anyone had other ideas for a less time consuming version. It just looks so awesome


There's a version that uses cardboard chits.
Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:44 pm
Author: PaulGrogan
Progress is being made slowly but surely. I'm hoping to get most of them finished by this weekend as I'm planning another demo game on monday night.

However, my brain has hit a bit of a wall. I've made the buildings in 5 different heights, varying from 2 to 6 floors in height. Each floor is 6mm high, so the tallest building is 36mm (1.5 inch), which looks good.

However, I'm looking through the actual buildings in the game and thinking that I've made a lot of them too tall. For example, cards like Hotel and Hospital are fine being big tall buildings, but others such as Mobile Home Park, Amusement Park, Car Dealership and Gravel Pit would just look a bit sill as a 6 floor building.

So, I'm thinking of reducing the number of 5-6 floor buildings I have and also having some that are just 1-floor, certainly for things like the Gravel Pit.


On the other hand, the Commercial 4-lot building "Skyscraper", maybe I'll make one super-tall building.

Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:29 am
Author: abodi
wondering wether a purely paper craft version would be neat and work ok.
Sat Oct 1, 2011 3:25 pm
Author: PaulGrogan
It is complete:

It took in total, about 70 hours to complete
And yes, I should probably seek some professional help......







Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:16 pm
Author: lubomirvaic
So, you feel like selling your copy now?

Looks great and had inspired me to attempt something similar when I finally get my copy!
Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:23 pm
Author: NikTheRake
PaulGrogan wrote:
It is complete:

It took in total, about 70 hours to complete
And yes, I should probably seek some professional help......



If it is an obsession it is a magnificent one.

Maximum respect.
Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:38 pm
Author: tckoppang
Wow. That looks really nice.
Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:50 pm
Author: Malacandra
That is...epic!

My only question is how fiddly is it to demolish and replace buildings on the inside blocks?
Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:17 pm
Author: PaulGrogan
Malacandra wrote:
That is...epic!

My only question is how fiddly is it to demolish and replace buildings on the inside blocks?


I've done that a few times. Mainly when I was setting up this picture to take the photo

I'm not going to deny it is a little fiddly, and a couple of buildings got knocked whilst I was doing it, But it was literally 5 seconds to fix and since this doesnt happen too often, still worth it.

Same as the 'issue' with having to look around other buildings if a tall one is in front of a much smaller one. This does impact on gameplay, but a lot less than you might think (and I originally thought), since players are often looking top down on the board anyway. Even when we played it without the buildings, players were standing up and looking over the board when working out where to put a building.
Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:24 pm
Author: StevenE
So Paul.... are you going to share the graphics file so we can all get to work on our own 3d buildings?
Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:20 pm
Author: Malacandra
OK, as a GMT fanboy, I rarely have complaints about the components of a game and I know the components for Urban Sprawl are just fine. But I really kinda wish I hadn't seen these pics before I get my copy and play it... laugh
Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:28 pm
Author: Sigrdrifa
Chad Jensen wrote:
Right: the square lots onto which the buildings are placed are 3/4" square. Standard Lego dimensions create a mismatch.


That just means you need to rework the board! whistle

Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:57 pm
Author: Xscreamist
Now you need to make 3d parks...little trees and stuff...lol.
Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:34 pm
Author: Chad Jensen
And tiny cars and pedestrians for the streets.
Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:41 pm
Author: PaulGrogan
Chad Jensen wrote:
And tiny cars and pedestrians for the streets.


Oh, dont you start!

We played this game on Wednesday night in the hotel in Essen, me demoing it to 3 friends. They all said the buildings were fantastic and really added to the gameplay.

And then they started coming up with more and more ideas of how I could pimp the buildings even more.

Since doing the pictures, I have made a special Aquarium building, a blue/white wave side with the 'Sea Life' logo on. It looks great, so I will probably end up further pimping some of the other buildings too. Any suggestions, please send them my way, but remember that I want to keep the tops of the buildings as they are for ease of gameplay - although my church might end up with a steeple somehow!
Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:46 am
Author: WiltChamberlain

This is awesome.

Well done dude.
Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:54 am
Author: wedgeex
This looks completely wonderful - I think I am going to try something like this but I don't expect it to look a tenth as good as yours.

Truly magnificent work!
Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:54 pm
Author: dogmatix
This is a fantastic project. For those of us who are lazier, I wonder if the cardstock buildings with plastic bases from old family games like Hotels and Prize Property might serve for some of this....

Hrm....must go find my sets and see what might be available.
Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:37 pm
Author: uhrigb01
This is incredibly awesome! Is it possible for you to post or link the templates you used for the buildings? It's definitely something that I'd be up to doing for myself.
Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:23 pm
Author: shieldwolf
So how much is this again?

Okay just kidding...not really. Amazing work love the detail. Now if I could just get some good meeples for Dominant species.
Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:34 pm
Author: baronkohinar
So yeah, Paul, any assistance for those of us who also want to embrace the madness and undertake such a project for themselves? Perhaps you could be persuaded to share your graphic texture files with the rest of the class?
Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:26 am
Author: PaulGrogan
baronkohinar wrote:
So yeah, Paul, any assistance for those of us who also want to embrace the madness and undertake such a project for themselves? Perhaps you could be persuaded to share your graphic texture files with the rest of the class?


Already said I'll do that on one of the other threads. Have a busy weekend ahead of me, so hopefully early next week.
Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:19 am
Author: baronkohinar
Excellent! You, sir, are truly a man among kings! Er, a king among men!
Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:40 pm
Author: abodi
Saw this today.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/12/a-tabletop-version-of-simci...

would be so awesome, i'm sure some would need to be modified so a cube could be placed nicely but yeah check it out.

pretty amazing.
Sat Dec 3, 2011 3:41 am
Author: Magentawolf
PaulGrogan wrote:
baronkohinar wrote:
So yeah, Paul, any assistance for those of us who also want to embrace the madness and undertake such a project for themselves? Perhaps you could be persuaded to share your graphic texture files with the rest of the class?


Already said I'll do that on one of the other threads. Have a busy weekend ahead of me, so hopefully early next week.


Just curious, but did these ever get posted anywhere? I think I've found my next project here...
Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:54 pm
Author: A skinned math nerd
PaulGrogan wrote:
We played this game on Wednesday night in the hotel in Essen, me demoing it to 3 friends. They all said the buildings were fantastic and really added to the gameplay.

Wait, you carried all this to Essen and back? Just to play it?

I'd be interested in seeing the files for these being released, too.

In the meantime, people could look over here for some good substitutes: Smash Monster Rampage!
Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:30 am