Having watched the whole thing (and paid attention to a little bit of it, too) I have to say that I think that in post WW1 Germany there was a load of people who wanted monarchy back. It was just relatively inconvenient to announce something like that because of, you know, the war? Hindenburg, for example, would have loved things to restore things just as they had been but then he went for something, that, in his mind, came rather close to a monarchy thus in the end endorsing the formation of a totalitarian regime (I'm pretty sure that he didn't really want to wind up with Hitler, though).
couldn't watch the whole thing but... well you clearly like to be thoughtful... and clearly, your character is great!
I'm not sure he's actually playing a character here.... it just might be TEH MAN himself!
I presumed he was complimenting me on my obvious moral strengths.
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Having watched the whole thing (and paid attention to a little bit of it, too) I have to say that I think that in post WW1 Germany there was a load of people who wanted monarchy back. It was just relatively inconvenient to announce something like that because of, you know, the war? Hindenburg, for example, would have loved things to restore things just as they had been but then he went for something, that, in his mind, came rather close to a monarchy thus in the end endorsing the formation of a totalitarian regime (I'm pretty sure that he didn't really want to wind up with Hitler, though).
Perhaps - I thought the concept of the monarchy was largely discredited among the old Junkers - basically by abdicating (which wasn't necessary) they showed such weakness that few really wanted to restore them; other options (totalitarian for example) were more attractive.
I wouldn't equate the monarchy with any of the game ideals though.
Great review and enjoyed the other videos in the series.
I share a lot of feelings about this game with yourself. I've played it and found the mechanics interesting but the theme just doesn't sit well. Maybe the designer had the theme in mind during the development and this guided him to the implementation of the mechanics. However, once those mechanics were solid and played well perhaps the theme should have been revisited.
This game for me is little more than an area control game with variable player powers. Could have been set in almost any genre. An idea like clandestine, Illuminati type factions are vying for control of nations. At least that could sit a little better but it might not generate the sales that the current theme implies or promises.
couldn't watch the whole thing but... well you clearly like to be thoughtful... and clearly, your character is great!
I'm not sure he's actually playing a character here.... it just might be TEH MAN himself!
I presumed he was complimenting me on my obvious moral strengths.
Junkfoot wrote:
Having watched the whole thing (and paid attention to a little bit of it, too) I have to say that I think that in post WW1 Germany there was a load of people who wanted monarchy back. It was just relatively inconvenient to announce something like that because of, you know, the war? Hindenburg, for example, would have loved things to restore things just as they had been but then he went for something, that, in his mind, came rather close to a monarchy thus in the end endorsing the formation of a totalitarian regime (I'm pretty sure that he didn't really want to wind up with Hitler, though).
Perhaps - I thought the concept of the monarchy was largely discredited among the old Junkers - basically by abdicating (which wasn't necessary) they showed such weakness that few really wanted to restore them; other options (totalitarian for example) were more attractive.
I wouldn't equate the monarchy with any of the game ideals though.
Actually, even the group that Stauffenberg was involved in wanted to reinstall a monarchy. (I just researched that myself and was quite surprised as to which level the idea of moarchy was still present at)
Wonderful review! Very insightful. You looked at it from a different perspective than I would've (seeing it first in terms of historical accuracy then in terms of thematic effect.) I think the problem I had with the game, which to some extent you also had, is that it is a gamey game with a fascinating theme. Upon seeing the theme, one expects more of a psychological/sociological game than what one gets. It seems like, given the theme, the game should've been more geared towards implementing the theme as opposed to focusing on game-play. It should've been a game about merchant houses bribing different members of court. I found the Islamic Fundamentalist to be an odd duck. I feel like they brought in some specificity that the other ideologies didn't have. Religious Fundamentalism would've been broader and made more sense to me as an opponent of the other ideologies. Thanks for reviewing this game. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I found the Islamic Fundamentalist to be an odd duck. I feel like they brought in some specificity that the other ideologies didn't have. Religious Fundamentalism would've been broader and made more sense to me as an opponent of the other ideologies.
If the game was NOT portrayed as it is.
Imperialism was not at war with Fascism nor capitalism.
The game tries to provide some sort of historical link to nations and wars as a part of the conflict of ideals, which simply doesn't work.
I guess I was hoping for something like a more serious Illuminati (which I hear Days of Decision III is, sort of).
I found the Islamic Fundamentalist to be an odd duck. I feel like they brought in some specificity that the other ideologies didn't have. Religious Fundamentalism would've been broader and made more sense to me as an opponent of the other ideologies.
If the game was NOT portrayed as it is.
Imperialism was not at war with Fascism nor capitalism.
The game tries to provide some sort of historical link to nations and wars as a part of the conflict of ideals, which simply doesn't work.
I guess I was hoping for something like a more serious Illuminati (which I hear Days of Decision III is, sort of).
I haven't played the game but it seems quite half-assed really. Especially since capitalism is in parts a quite substantial part of imperialism, isn't it?
Also, the concept of Fascism is harder to grasp as people might think and then using it in combination with Germany will make historians quite mad, I guess. (as Enrice rightly said)
I haven't played the game but it seems quite half-assed really. Especially since capitalism is in parts a quite substantial part of imperialism, isn't it?
Well, if we were only talking pure economic theories, imperialism was more often associated with mercantilism, I'd suggest (though clearly Great Britain was the world's greatest proponent of free trade ever to exist - until it came to rights of neutrals during wars they were involved in).
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Also, the concept of Fascism is harder to grasp
See, we have political theory, economic theory, religious, and then imperialism, which barely seems to oppose any of these (maybe religious?). A lot of this could be reconciled, but for the fact that they share the same GOAL, and seem to embody alliance blocks - which clearly isn't the case: imperialists were almost incessantly FIGHTING one another.
See, we have political theory, economic theory, religious, and then imperialism, which barely seems to oppose any of these (maybe religious?).
Actually, the British thought of themselves as godsent saviours of the inferiour races across Africa (etc.), so I don't think that (at least) their imperialism opposed religion
See, we have political theory, economic theory, religious, and then imperialism, which barely seems to oppose any of these (maybe religious?).
Actually, the British thought of themselves as godsent saviours of the inferiour races across Africa (etc.), so I don't think that (at least) their imperialism opposed religion
Oh, clearly I didn't mean across the board. I meant that imperialism was in opposition to the rather insular stance fundamentalism sometimes takes.
Do you like the gameplay mechanics? Aside from the theme and historical accuracy, is it challenging and rewarding to play this game? To who would you suggest this game if anyone? I have a possibility to get this game fairly cheap , about 15 $, so I'm just wondering if this game has any replay value and should I buy it or not.
Do you like the gameplay mechanics? Aside from the theme and historical accuracy, is it challenging and rewarding to play this game? To who would you suggest this game if anyone? I have a possibility to get this game fairly cheap , about 15 $, so I'm just wondering if this game has any replay value and should I buy it or not.
Strikes me as an okay game. The big hook for me was the topic - but the gameplay didn't have any great flaws that I remember. I'd think watching the playings though, you'd get a better idea than my memory from a couple months ago.
