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I've been on the fence for a long time with the following two... they are expensive, they seem good, but some of the negative comments are pretty harsh.

What I'm interested in is opinions from people who have played them and feel strongly one way or another. Are they good or bad? Why?
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1. Board Game: Liberté [Average Rating:7.17 Overall Rank:735]
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Die Macher is on its way to me already. Do I really need another election game? IS this really an election game? Enough people seem to think its quite a boring and random exercise. But Tom Vassel claims its one of his top ten. Who should I believe?
 
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This one is even more confusing. Is it a wargame or an economics game? What about the pieces? they look pretty bad from some of the pics, and many mention production issues. Unbalanced? Does it matter? Repetitive? Too long? Learning curve too big? Why the high rating?
 
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