The Australian Mid Year Math Trade 2012
This Math Trade is brought to you by co-op of
Cash option as per the previous Math Trades is available.
The boring bit:
By posting an item to this list you are agreeing that you can and will mail it anywhere in Australia at your expense. If it looks like that's going to cost a lot, make sure you don't trade it for something crap.
There will be NO removal of entries possible as this made it difficult for some people to track items.
More details about the cash bids look here
This trade is open to Australian BGGers only.
This trade is open to board games, expansions, card games, game accessories, RPG, video games and the like. Please don't add anything else. If you intend to allow a game to be exchanged for cash (i.e. you're selling), please include the amount you will accept for it in the price. You may consider compare current market prices (ebay, BGG, local shop)
In ALL cases, SENDER PAYS SHIPPING. Even if you're selling a game for cash, SENDER PAYS SHIPPING. Even to Perth or Townsville or Hobart. So, make sure you set your price high enough that you would be happy to pay shipping to anywhere else in Australia out of that money.
Consider the Australian Post option of flat-rate box previously suggested. More details here.
There is an expectation for items included in the math trade to remain as part of the math trade until the closing date. If your intention is to sell an item there are other alternatives in BGG to do so. If an item is not longer available for whatever reason, please indicate so with big letters.
Note: BGG runs a marketplace where sellers pay 3% commission to BGG, and I recommend that this should apply here as well. As Aldie's debt-collectors don't get over this way very much, I suggest that sellers make a donation of that 3% using the standard BGG donation system.
Traders will not be required to add cash items to the geeklist - that will be handled in the want lists. In the case that a buyer offers more than a seller is asking, the buyer will pay the seller's price. Sorry sellers, this is not an auction, this is a maths trade, and you only get as much as you ask for.
Australian BGGers can participate even without submitting an item to the trade with the cash option by submitting want list as indicated below.
Feel free to put as many items on the list as you want. Duplicates of items already on the list are okay. You can combine multiple games into one item (e.g. Alhambra plus expansions).
Describe the edition, language, and condition of the game. Pick a picture that represents the game you're offering if there are multiple versions. If necessary, take a picture of the game, upload it to your gallery, and use that image.
Feel free to use the rating suggested by petegs to describe your items:
New in shrink - which means never opened.
Opened but unpunched - I've looked at the game but not punched counters yet or stickered blocks etc.
Opened and punched - Looked at, even punched counters etc but haven't played.
Opened and played.
Count pieces to make sure the games are complete, and accurately list any components that are missing or damaged. Please look at your trade pile to make sure the game is really there.
In order to make your items more (or less) appealing, you may want to add one or more "sweeteners" to the item listing -- an expansion, a related game, or a completely unrelated item that you think will make it a more desirable package.
Items for which there is no BGG listing can be listed as Miscellaneous Game Accessory.
Trade lists will be found by TradeMaximizer using SCALED-PRIORITIES, ALLOW-DUMMIES, REQUIRE-COLONS and REQUIRE-USERNAMES switches. The actual code is a heavily modified version of Trade Maximiser 1.3a, modified to allow geeklist integration (as we've been using in Australia for a couple of years) and now the cash bids. The (Java) source code will be available to anyone who's interested.
Add items to the list by:
10pm Sunday 20th May 2012. EST (SYD/CBR) Australian Time
Official item list posted by:
10pm Wednesday 23th May 2012. EST (SYD/CBR) Australian Time
Want Lists Due By:
10pm Sunday 27th May 2012. EST (SYD/CBR) Australian Time
Want list submission via GeekMail toJohn FarrellAustralia
New South WalesBuster Keaton from 'Go West'
Official Results Posted By: 6pm Wednesday 30 May 2012. EST (SYD/CBR) Australian Time
Math Trade Result:
There really is no leeway for that, as people may need to get their games to a willing 'games mule' attending BorderCon.
- Make sure the game contents are secure insidethe game and won't shift around.
- Place the game in a plastic bag to prevent water damage (in the event it is left out in the rain).
- Make sure there's cushioning around all side of the game.
- Use a proper box. (Auspost "ToughBags" won't prevent crushing.)
- Make sure the box is properly taped up.
- Make sure the address is clear and won't get torn off.
I suggest follow the recommendations above even if you are not posting your items and using a 'game mule'.
Want List Format:
The official item list will be of a format something like:
Want lists must be submitted in a format like
(your user name-batcut) 0001-TWIXT : 0004-TICHU 0002-BMOON
indicating that batcut, the person who put item 0001, a Twixt game, into the list would be willing to accept either item 0004, a Tichu game, or item 0002, Blue Moon, in trade for it. The order of listing is your order of preference, in case both trades are possible.
The order of wants is a tiebreaker only. The system will first try to maximise the number of trades, even if this means that you get your last preference. The order of your wants will only be considered if there are multiple ways to get the maximum trades. But, fear not! You will never get a game that is not on your want list.
If you put 5 games on this trade list, you will be submitting 5 different want lists.
You may also submit want lists for cash bids. In that case, you write something like this:
(your user name-batcut) $20 : 0004-TICHU 0002-BMOON
meaning that batcut has $20 and he'll pay it for either Tichu or Blue Moon. You could also write this:
(your user name-batcut) $10 : 0004-TICHU
(your user name-batcut) $20 : 0002-BMOON
meaning that batcut will pay $10 for Tichu and $20 for Blue Moon, so batcut could be up for $30 total. To ensure that you don't spend all of your beer money, you can add a spending limit just like this:
(your user name-batcut) LIMIT : $30
which means that no matter what happens, batcut won't win trades such that he has to spend more than $30. I'll tell you how that works. We run the trade algorithm, and inspect the results. If anyone has exceeded their spending limit, their highest-priced successful bid is removed and the algorithm is re-run. Continue until all spending limits are satisfied. If you don't specify a spending limit, the program infers a limit which is the highest amount you've been for any single item. That will be a rather conservative limit, but follows the maxim of no nasty surprises.
To sell a game, you can submit a trade list like this:
(your user name-batcut) 0001-TWIXT : 0004-TICHU 0002-BMOON $30
meaning that for Twixt batcut will accept Tichu, or Blue Moon, or $30 from anyone who's offering cash.
Finally, do not try to screw the system. The program will reject nonsense like this:
(batcut) $10: $20
(batcut) %CASH: $20
(batcut) $10: %CASH
(batcut) $20: $10
and furthermore John reserves the right to change the program to reject anything else he sees as a scam and not an honest trade. Please post any questions in the Geeklist Comments below.
Detailed discussions about the math trade HERE.
Finally, please let know others that the math trade is up and running.
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