GCL Eclipse Division: Episode 70: Life's Bigger Questions
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Like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be recovered, so we must die. But God does not take away life; instead, he devises ways so that a banished person may not remain estranged from him. 2 Sam 14:14
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had unexpectedly passed away, suffering a heart attack after a bike ride. Ironically, this is the second person this year that I've known, who appeared to be healthy, and then died suddenly after a bike ride.

I turn 50 this year. I ride bikes for commuting and for exercise. I don't plan to die, but you never know...

This has put me in a more introspective mood, and has pushed me to discuss it with my community of friends here in Eclipse.

A cautionary note: These questions may (and should) cause the respondents to reply from the foundations of their faith, whatever that might be. And all faiths are equally legitimate and worthy. I trust the members of Eclipse to respond with sensitivity and respect. I especially encourage all other responders to exercise the same respect.

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This is the Game Chat League: Eclipse discussion list for the week of December 2, 2012.

Lurkers, see the Eclipse wiki for more information about the discussion group.

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1. Board Game: The Game of Life [Average Rating:4.20 Overall Rank:15668]
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When green is all there is to be, it could make you wonder why. But why wonder? I'm green, and it'll do fine: it's beautiful, and I think it's what I want to be.
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The great existential question: what does it mean? Why are we here? Is there purpose to life, or is it random cosmology?
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2. Board Game: Legacy of Glory [Average Rating:6.10 Unranked]
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For what would you like to be remembered? What would you like your legacy to be? (There could be several answers to this, when you approach it from the perspective of Family, Work, Community, or World views.)
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3. Board Game: The BoardGameGeek Game [Average Rating:6.04 Overall Rank:4227]
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And what would you want your lasting BGG legacy to be? We obviously value this site. Are we doing everything we can to make it a welcoming community?
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4. Board Game: That's Life! [Average Rating:6.50 Overall Rank:1540]
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Returning to the gaming perspective that is the purpose of our little chat league, if you could design a game that was perfectly allegorical to your experience of living, what would it look like? What are the 'winning' conditions?
 
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5. Board Game: Community [Average Rating:6.00 Unranked]
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Should there be an 'In Memoriam' page, or special place of reverence here on BoardGameGeek, in which to inter users who have left us for the Great Gaming Table of Eternity?
 
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6. Board Game: Celebrity [Average Rating:6.42 Unranked]
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And now, something lighter to bring us out of the heavier discussion:

Assume there is a Gaming Heaven, and you can play any game(s) with anyone from history. With whom would you play, and what would be the game(s.) (There might be more than one game session you'd like to set-up.)
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7. Board Game: Express 01 [Average Rating:5.14 Overall Rank:14938]
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Played Express 01 a couple of times. I liked the multi use cards and the networking. I'm a little concerned the game dissolves into whoever has the last turn becomes kingmaker but will to need to play more to explore if this is a problem once everyone is familiar with the game play.

Also tried Kairo which has some potential to become a devious tile placement game. Need a few more plays.

Played Love Letter and R both quick fillers, love the design minimalism.

Got to try my Gift from my BGG Secret Santa, King of Tokyo. Dice fest fun reminds me of Saturday afternoons as a kid watch Godzilla vs Mothra.

Also played an old game Wykersham, kind of an interesting dice game.

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8. Board Game: Key Market [Average Rating:7.45 Overall Rank:1448]
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Games Played, Week of 11/25


Key Market
First off, The Once and Future Gamers met again at Lenny's, and this week was my pick, Key Market. I have been wanting to get this to the table for a long time. Personally, I liked it. I am not sure what the others thought yet, as I had to leave right after cleaning up as it was late and I had a drive to get home. It is not a Breese game, but it feels like one, and I really want to try it again now that I know what is going on. The game does need some kind of cheat sheet for each player to see all the guilds. I lost track of a couple good ones that were across the table.

I am curious to see what Lenny says. He said he liked it (it was a Lenny game he said), but I didn't hear much more.

Trajan
Also, this week, my wife and I implemented our gaming night again. We have tons of games that we buy that we can both play, but we haven't. So we started our gaming night again. The first game was Trajan. She liked it quite a bit.
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9. Board Game: Quietville [Average Rating:6.18 Overall Rank:3118]
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Games Played 11/28-12/5

The first game I played during this time period was actually Schnäppchen Jagd, which was very enjoyable as always; my next play of the game will be my 125th, which isn't bad for a semi-random pickup (the only thing I knew about the game, when I bought it and translated the rules, was that it was by Rosenberg).

But Der Elefant im Porzellanladen was enjoyable enough that I bothered to write up how I teach the game.

Res Publica is an odd duck for me, in that I'm likely to reach 100 plays (67 and counting currently), without ever having played the game 10 times in a year.

We don't play Frank's Zoo by the rules, but we do have fun with it.

Two more sessions of Bridge mean that - in spite of many of the Bridge players at work having left or retired - this still won't be my worst year for playing the game. (In 2008, I only played 64 times.)

Mü & More is a tradition at work, as a result of which I'm now over 250 plays, and it is my third most often played game since I started recording my plays (behind Bridge and Race for the Galaxy).

When he was younger, my younger son really liked Twin. Now, he likes that it's fast - but he does still enjoy it enough to choose that game to play with me.

With multiple sources bringing up Durch die Wüste at the same time, it was an obvious choice to bring to the table. And it remains a very enjoyable game, even if it is a game I'm notably mediocre at.

I got in the first two playtests of Chattanooga Choo-Choo V this week. When I first went to Gulf Games - a decade ago now - I misunderstood something Greg wrote, and thought I was supposed to bring a game set where I lived. Not having one handy, I designed one - Boston Tea Party - and put a copy on the prize table. As a result, I got into a tradition of doing so at _every_ Gulf Games I've attended. (Three of them are on BGG - Life of the Party, Chattanooga Choo-Choo II, and Chattanooga Choo-Choo III. Actually four, because I tossed a copy of Transportation Tricks on the prize table one time, when I didn't have time to design a game for the event. And there are another ten that aren't...)

But - and I had to look through my blog to remember this - for Gulf Games in Chattanooga I was short on time before the second one I attended, and thus just named the second game after the first. The third was therefore Chattanooga Choo-Choo III, and so on. The good news is that this means that I always know the theme. And, in this case, I was inspired by a Mark Johnson podcast, which got me thinking about ways to solve a particular issue. But, after two playtests - I'm _really_ happy with the state of the game. It works smoothly, and it feels original. I'll run through more testing, but I think it's basically set.

I did play one other prototype I'm working on, and it's settling down, but it took a lot longer to reach this point. I don't often design two-player games, and I haven't, that I recall, designed an asymmetric one before. And it was fun - but really challenging to get right. I think it might be there, though.

We played 1846: The Race for the Midwest, my 39th play in 2012 - making for the fifth straight year when I played the game more than I ever had before. I've now played the game 109 times in the past three years alone; it's about to pass Schnäppchen Jagd...

Tried Pari for the first time; it works better than many math games, but still wasn't an ideal fit for me, so it was added to Joe Rushanan's collection.

Played Jambo, which I discovered I've become rusty at. Still love the game.

We played Ricochet Robot, which worked very nicely as a waiting-for-quorum game. And then followed with a quick game of Acquire (#48), which went _really_ poorly for me early - but I was (barely) able to recover, and as a result of my early holdings in the companies that stuck around I was able to hold first in both of the companies that finished the game, for a narrow win ($54,000 to $51,200).

Games Acquired

Well, I suppose in some sense I "acquired" Chattanooga Choo-Choo V, since I put the first copy together...

I received Making Profit: The Boardgame, which I put in a small offer for in a geek auction. Most interestingly, the four languages the rules offer are English, Russian, Finnish, and Estonian. Hope to try it tomorrow.

I also received Snowdonia, one of the many Essen releases I really enjoy. Looking forward to playing it more.
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10. Board Game: The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game [Average Rating:7.63 Overall Rank:105]
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Games Played (11/25 - 12/1)

The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game x11
My wife and I have started playing this as a 2p coop now. I haven't yet gotten into the expansion decks, nor have I used anything except the starting 30 card decks. It was well received and we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. I suspect this is going to get steady play from us for a while.

Saint Petersburg x4


1835 x1
A long PBEM game that we've played to the point where the end is a foregone conclusion. One other player stopped responding, but I went ahead and logged it. This is my first playing, and I've had a copy for a few years. I'm not particularly impressed.

There are problems with the initial packet distribution, so we played a variant that allows for an auction. Supposedly this helps to balance things. But the problem is that there is one large RR and you can pull all kinds of shenanigans with it. Whoever gets control is the probable winner. The only way to counter that which I can see is to buy shares long before it operates, but someone will still end up on the short end of the stick. After a single play, my impression is that this is an unbalanced mess. I know some folks who play it a lot, but I'm just not sure what the draw is.

1846: The Race for the Midwest x1
We played a local game. It had been quite some time since I played. We had a lot of fun, and an exciting finish. As the banker, I'm pretty sure I shorted myself a couple hundred...which would have been enough to challenge for the win. My bad. I don't see how Joe gets this played in 2 hours, though.

18AL x1

This was a PBEM game that died, so I eventually logged it as a play. We've since revived it after a month of dead time. I'm not a big fan of 18AL. We're playing with 3p, but its just too small and not enough room for interesting things to happen. Its probably good for learning the 18xx system, but move on quickly.
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11. Board Game: Keyflower [Average Rating:7.89 Overall Rank:44]
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Shane finally beats Adaman!

PLAYS 11/26/2012 - 12/2/2012

Adaman x 6
After being clued in on how to use The Excuse, I was able to finally beat the game. I've played it once since and didn't even come very close. But at least I know it can be done. I can't believe people win it 40% of the time. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Agricola x 3, twice w/ Agricola: Gamers' Deck
Played a solo game, a 2p game with Ash, and a 4p game with Nora, Aimee, and Ash. I was able to find some powerful combos with the G-Deck, scoring well in my solo game and beating Ash in the 2p game. I took a one-point second place in the 4p game. Aimee had a load of bonus-scoring improvements to nose me out.

Hanabi x 3
Three more very enjoyable sessions. I really like teaching this to new people. It's a surprise hit every time.

King of Tokyo x 2
King of Tokyo: Power Up! x 2
Power Up! does what I've always thought the base rules needed: get more cards on the table. I haven't tried it without the Double-Dose-of-Energy Variant, but I will soon to see if the variant is still as necessary.

Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization x 2
More online play. Of course.

Keyflower x 1
First play. Even though I got killed, I really enjoyed the game and look forward to discovering it more. But seriously, I got really, really killed. Every time I tried to put something together, I was nosed out on bidding. I wasn't able to connect ANY of my strategy thoughts. It was so bad, we were all laughing and making jokes. The winning score was somewhere in the 50s and I scored 18! So bad. But still fun.

Puerto Rico: Limited Anniversary Edition x 1
I finally got to play with my Anniversary Edition. I like the coins the most, closely followed by the goods containers. I'm glad I own it, and it surprisingly adds a little to the experience. Plus, I'm excited to explore some of the expansion buildings.

RECENTLY ACQUIRED

My Secret Santa sent me War of the Ring: Lords of Middle-earth and D-Day Dice! Very exciiting.

I also received my copy of The Great Zimbabwe in the mail. I'm stoked to get this one out soon.

NOTES

I did an auction and gave away a lot of games in the last week. This culling has shrunk my collection considerably. I'm down to 83 total games and only 9 unplayed. I have a goal to play all 9 of those before the end of the year. Wish me luck.
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12. Board Game: Battle Line [Average Rating:7.42 Overall Rank:184]
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I had a good week of games! I taught a friend Battle Line over a cigar and we had a great time. I forgot how much I like it. My only problem with it is it takes a lot of space to play so it's hard to take to coffee shops etc.

My wife and I also played some more GoT LCG. We still aren't completely sure if the long play time is worth it or not. After playing I decided that I don't feel like the game is taking to long until after we are finished playing. It's odd. I like the game system though and plan on getting a few big expansions to add more decks to play with. Should we just be playing Blue Moon though? I'd put us onto Warhammer Invasion, which i think is better and a much faster game, but we like the Westeros world so much!
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13. Board Game: Kingdom Builder [Average Rating:7.00 Overall Rank:456]
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Games played this week

Not a lot, but here we go:

Kingdom Builder: 10x This game came out on the ipad and I decided to try it. I really fell in love with it!. Simple, fast, replayable... Then I bought the table version and showed it to 3 friends who enjoyed it a lot too.

Fluxx: 1x Gives me the feeling of Innovation but in a simpler way. It was a blind purchase. Hopefully we'll play again soon.

Troyes: 1x Always a winner. Expansion is on its way to my home...

Loopin' Louie: 4x Found it in a store and thought it would be a nice game to bring for Christams in my family.
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