Geek Chat League Gelato 50 - Diversity
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Geek Chat League Gelato 50 - Diversity

What is a Geek Chat League?

A Geek Chat League is a weekly discussion-group format for people who love gaming and enjoy talking about games. It is intended to foster depth and familiarity, producing engaging content and worthwhile interaction. Members get to know one another, establish shared interests, and generally develop a friendly and productive environment.

Of necessity, each division of GCL is kept relatively small (typically between 12-16 members, though individual divisions may incline one way or the other). A tight-knit discussion group tends to function more smoothly than a free-for-all. It allows individuals to be heard and understood, and for each participant to keep up and enjoy multiple topics as the week progresses. The format is geeklist-based, and lists are not published to the BGG front page.

Policy: If you're a lurker or have otherwise discovered GCL Gelato, feel free to read along with us and see what the members have to say on everything under the sun. If you have a constructive comment or something else you think would add to the discussion, consider posting it — if it's helpful, respectful, and polite to the discussion group as a whole, as well as to its individual members.

Our Rainbow:
leroy 43 (Roger)

The Shards of Multi-Colored Light:
ad79 (Stig)
Capt_S (Jon)
cmontgo2 (Chris)
Cole Wehrle (Cole)
csottk (Skippen)
DocStryder (Doc)
GeneSteeler (Randy)
grouchysmurf (Łukasz)
HarlemMimeSchool (Andrew)
itsmarty (Martin)
krismoulton (Kris)
leroy43 (Roger)
licinius (Carl)
marnaudo (Marco)
oeolycus (Dan)
pete belli (Pete)
PzVIE (Ron)
RPardoe (Richard)
scoutmom (Cindy)
Sluggonics (Kyle)
wifwendell (Wendell)

Next Up: Cole Wehrle!

Geek Chat League Gelato 50 - Diversity

I'm talking about positive diversity - those things around us that - because they are different, enhance our life experiences. This geeklist is about finding the positive and fun in diversity - in food, drink, culture, and custom.

Enjoy!

Here's a song by one of my favorite little-known musicians - I encourage you to listen to it, the organ solo in the middle will slay you. I think it's a song to humanity, but some think it's a love song - I see it as perfectly apt for this geeklist - we all have to be by each other's side, we're all in it together:

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1. Board Game: Hey, Bartender! [Average Rating:6.40 Unranked]
Chris Montgomery
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What's the coolest exotic drink that you've ever had(that is, originally made or invented outside your own country)? The drink may be, but need not, be alcoholic. If it is a mixed drink, do you have a recipe for it?
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2. Board Game: Opus-Dei: Existence After Religion [Average Rating:6.03 Overall Rank:9170]
Chris Montgomery
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This was touched on recently in another GCL list, but I'd like a different a spin on it . . . what's the coolest religious experience (if any) you've ever had outside of your own professed beliefs? Was the experience cultural as well as religious - were you in a different country - what about it made it the coolest? Any cool stories from that experience?
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3. Board Game: Munchkin Promotional Bookmarks [Average Rating:5.70 Unranked] [Average Rating:5.70 Unranked]
Chris Montgomery
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Describe a random act of kindness from a stranger whom you did not expect help from? Why did you not expect help?

If nothing comes to mind, have you performed a random act of kindness for another who you suspected did not expect help from you?

If neither of these apply, do a random act of kinds for someone this week!
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4. Board Game: Love it or Hate it [Average Rating:4.25 Unranked]
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What's something about another culture or country that you find fascinating and wish your culture or country could incorporate?
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5. Board Game: Game of the Little Volunteer [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
Chris Montgomery
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One of the best ways to enjoy the diversity of people and remind ourselves that there is more to life than our little bubble of existence is to get out and volunteer and interact with people different than ourselves. What is a volunteer activity that you have done at some point in your life - how did that experience impact your view of the world?
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6. Board Game: Analyze Me [Average Rating:5.12 Unranked]
Chris Montgomery
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Often how we feel about the world, and even our little slice of it is strongly colored by our own beliefs, views, and anecdotal experiences. There is a great segment in the U.S. that our National Public Radio used to do (but doesn't do anymore) called "This I Believe . . ."

Here are some links to some past segments. All of them are really great hear.

This I Believe Essays

If you had to finish the sentence "This I believe . . ." what would you say? Feel free to be as long or short as you like.

Edit: Forgot to include the essays link . . . highly encouraged listening!
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7. Board Game: Zombicide [Average Rating:7.25 Overall Rank:334] [Average Rating:7.25 Unranked]
Marco Arnaudo
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Zombicide!!!!!

And the prototype for Battle for Stalingrad.

And the scenario "Assault on the Red Bridge" from Dust Tactics: Operation "Hades" - where I devilishly forced my opponent to concede at the beginning of turn 3.

And a lot of work for the KS campaign of course.
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8. Board Game: Ambush! [Average Rating:7.41 Overall Rank:687]
Stig Morten
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Kvernaland
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Games
Fading Glory x1
Carcassonne x1
UNO x4
Farm Yatzy x2

Did the Slamanca scenario from Fading Glory and it was a very good one.

Carc on the Ipad, which I won against my wife thanks to winning the farm battle.

The other games were with my wife and my daughter who has decided Saturdays are family game nights. Fun times.

Vassal
Same as last week. 4 Memoir scenarios, Leuthen and No Retreat.

Life

Nice Easter week.
Wife decided we should take a trip to her parents cabin and make a bonfire, hotdogs and take our son out in a boat. Due to unseasonal dry and cold weather there were a NO FIRES ALLOWED in effect and the fjord was full of ice, so we had to heat our hotdogs in the kitchen and watch a boat which was moored at the fjord. But the weather was nice.

Even if I offended Ania's wargamepride last week I don't think it stuck too much, because she sent me a GM and told me to come over and pick up some more gaming stuff. And she was correct that it was more stuff.

Some stuff for Mari and me.
Louis XIV
Dominion which also included the cards from Dominion: Intrigue

And some wargaming stuff for me
Ambush!
The Hardest Days which also included the World at War magazine.
AstroNavis Merchant Advanced

Lots of solitaire goodness.

She also gave me 3 issues of C3i.

Thank you very much, Ania.

UPDATE:

I finished Memory of Light, the last book in the Wheel of Time series.
I have to say that Brandon Sanderson did a fine job with the series and the last book was very good. A fitting conclusion to a long story.

Dived right in Fatherland by Robert Harris. Crime novel set in Germany in the 60' in a Germany where Hitler won WWII. So far an awesome book.
Mari is actually reading the same book also right now, which is a first for us.
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9. Board Game: Little Wars [Average Rating:6.85 Overall Rank:7921]
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This week:

Santiago 1898 and the Rough Riders at San Juan Hill

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10. Board Game: World in Flames [Average Rating:7.51 Overall Rank:951] [Average Rating:7.51 Unranked]
Wendell
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Yellow Springs
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After two weeks off, my live-vassal WIF game continued. September/October saw rain and then snow, which was bad for my Germans in France. But I took a chance and attacked in the snow, made some progress. The turn went quite long - the first time this game it hasn't been the minimum length - and late October turned surprisingly nice, so the Wehrmacht was able to punch thru the French line in the north and break into Paris, which had been declared an open city.

Using the Line of Command rules for Vichy France, so France will definitely sue for peace early in the next turn.

Jon and I continue to hammer away at one another in For the People; he just snuck into Savannah thanks to Farragut.

My Angola game continues (inter-turn stuff). Likewise the Gelato Here I Stand and my Pax Romana games, but my turn didn't come up in either over the past week.
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11. Board Game: Railways of the World [Average Rating:7.69 Overall Rank:95] [Average Rating:7.69 Unranked]
Chris Montgomery
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Illinois
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Weekend Round-Up

This past week, these games were played face-to-face:
Railways of the World x 2
Epic Spell Wars of the Battle Wizards: Duel at Mt. Skullzfyre x 1
Leviathans x 1

This past week, these games started:
Battle Above the Clouds, Scenario 2 v. Jared

This past week, these games continued:
Battle Above the Clouds, Scenario 1 v. Gordon
Battle Above the Clouds, Scenario 7 v. Carsten
Three Battles of Manassas, Clash of Volunteers, Scenario 6.1 - To Henry Hill v. Chris (no, it's not a solo game!)
FAB: Sicily, Campaign Game v. Lukasz (I am the Axis)
Silent War, 1941-1942, Solo Scenario.

This past week, these games concluded:
Clash of Giants II, Ypres v. Iain

This past week, these games/accessories were acquired:
None.

This past week, these interesting things happened in my games and my life:

1 ---> Silent War has ended up being a non-starter, really. Essentially, the game appears to be a large computer algorithm that I, as the player, am charged with executing. It has not been a very enjoyable experience so far. I am still sticking with it for a small bit longer, but I don't really expect the flavor of the game to improve upon my palate.

2 ---> My game with Iain of Clash of Giants II ended with a German victory. The game was a lot of passing and holding the line. A final push and assault against Ypres failed, and the Germans won the scenario by a 5 v. 4 margin.

3 ---> Hope you like the topic for this week. I feel it was a bit of a lackluster performance, but I shall improve fellow scoops!

4 ---> I Kickstarted Napoleon - and I have an idea I'd like to either referee or play a double-blind game at BGG Con 2013, I think. It seems to be a perfect venue for it!

5 ---> I really, really enjoyed my two plays of Railways of the World. One was on the Mexico map with my wife, who indulged me. The other was a three-player game of the Eastern U.S. map. Both games were very fun, short, and light. I enjoyed it because for a game of it's length it seemed to hit all the right notes - satisfying, and very Goldilocks . . . not too long, not too short, but just right. Not too complex, but not too simple, but just right. Certainly I tend toward more complicated games, but this is a railroad game I can pull out, explain and play, all in under two hours.

Happy Easter!
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12. Board Game: A Dark and Bloody Ground [Average Rating:5.48 Overall Rank:12991]
Kyle Seely
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Weekly roundup!

I've had my eye on A Dark and Bloody Ground for a while now. I grew up in Fort Wayne, Indiana, the site of historic Kekionga, the capital of the Miami nation and overall confederation of native tribes, as well as historic Fort Wayne itself, built in 1794 at the site of Kekionga after United States general Anthony Wayne had defeated the Miami and confederated tribes at the battle of Fallen Timbers.

I haven't seen a wargame actually simulate these early campaigns in the Old Northwest, so I was curious to see how this would work.

The rules are not very good - just very poor organization, with important information scattered around in different parts, and some information explanations actually relegated to the charts for the game, with no corresponding explanation in the rules. Tough to navigate.

Once struggling through that issue, though, the game plays well enough. It's an area-control strategic map, with the US player attempting to settle the Ohio territory, applying military force to the Native American and British forces, with atrocities and manipulation of national will/mobilization fitting into the overall strategy.

I played the "Mad" Anthony Takes Command scenario, which probably isn't the best choice for a first play but hey, I grew up in Fort Wayne! It turned into a victory for the United States as they start out very militarily strong and can pretty quickly subdue the Native American forces.

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Russia is close to negotiating a surrender to France, Britain and Turkey. My Germans couldn't get to him in time... or could they have? devil Now I just need to make sure he works out the favorable terms with Britain and Turkey, and screws France, who will turn their sights on me once they're done with Russia.



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13. Board Game: Bora Bora [Average Rating:7.58 Overall Rank:157]
Cindy Nowak
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Kenosha
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Feld's newest game and one that some are saying is "better than Trajan". Not sure I'd go that far, at least not yet, but it was an enjoyable game with a crappe tonne (metric, of course) of possible actions and things going on. But the game only lasts six rounds, so you better decide quickly which action is best for you. I will say that I did not particularly enjoy the dice rolling aspect. Unlike something like Alien Frontiers, it seemed - at least in this first play - that dice rolling + player order can equal screwage from which you can't totally recover. But, as I said, it needs to be played again before I form any final decisions.

No Sea Lion testing - that's to resume this week. And 1 playthrough of Police Precinct, just for the fun of it.
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14. Board Game: Napoleon at Leipzig (fifth edition) [Average Rating:7.98 Overall Rank:5133]
Carl Paradis
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Back from my Norway/England vacation (and already swamped at work, darn), and had TWO new games waiting for me at the post office.

So the NEw Leipzig edition (it's the 5th and I owned all of them at one point or another. Crazy). GREAt components. The game system is a bit "coarse" and old, but I did a full alternate set of house rules that makes more sense to me and plays faster. The New event/move cards they added to the oldie system are also really, really good.

Buy this game!

Also:Heights of Courage



I like the game system, this one was a suprise as I did not remember pre-ordering it... Doh!

Both OSG and MMP did include a double of the counters in both games. It was VERY appreciated!!!

Will not have time to play any for now, as I am LATE in submitting my latest game design to GMT, and will also be into major game-culling for the next few weeks (I plan to give away hundreds again in May), putting "unwanted" games in boxes.

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15. Board Game: For the People [Average Rating:7.72 Overall Rank:711]
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Games This Week:

For the People
Unhappy King Charles! x 2
Warriors of God
Shifting Sands
Chandragupta
Red Winter: The Soviet Attack at Tolvajärvi, Finland – 8-12 December 1939
Combat Commander: Europe


Misc:

- Wendell and I are heading down the home stretch in FtP. Kind of ..... it is 1864. I think I will lose the war as the Union as I am kind of running out of time. However, this is new territory so I am not sure. The reason for my misgivings is that I suspect that my SW (Strategic Will) is too low. Then again, Mississippi is teetering on the edge of compliance.

- I have gone through the guided play through in CC:E and now have the first scenario, "Fat Lipki" set up to play through. Roger has helped me with a rules question. I must say the rules are very clean and live up to their good reputation.

- Torch has arrived in my ShS session and so now Tunisia and points west are in play. I think it will come down to the wire which is a frequent happenstance with this game.

- Roger and I are heading into the Mid War in UKC. Here come the Scots! Stuff the haggis!

- Still having trouble concentrating when reading books. Flip flopping between titles like crazy.

- Joined the unnamed masses this weekend in watching the Season 3 premiere of "Game of Thrones". Being a newb, I am still not sure who anyone is, what they want or why. Lots of nudity though. And violence. Sort of a modern day Colosseum show in that regards.

- Summer plans are firming up nicely.

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16. Board Game: Malta Convoy [Average Rating:4.82 Unranked]
Ron
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Vienna
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I have played no games, and I bought no new games, as I spent the last week on Malta cool

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17. Board Game: Twilight Struggle [Average Rating:8.34 Overall Rank:5]
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Vancouver
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This is the week that was:
Napoleon: The Waterloo Campaign, 1815 2 (4th edition playtest)
Combat Commander: Europe 2
Crokinole 1
DC Comics Deck-Building Game 1
Eat Poop You Cat 1
Tell-Tale 1
Twilight Struggle 1

So an interesting week of gaming, and a completely mixed bag to boot.

Columbia Games is just across the border in Blaine, WA. Door to door it's 49km (30 miles). Grant invited me to come down for a visit and to playtest the 4th edition of Napoleon, which still has a bunch of days to go on Kickstarter and has exceeded its original funding goal and is heading towards its third stretch goal (more on that below).

The original Napoleon was printed in 1974, and I have a copy of that edition, complete with the nice silk screened blocks that they used back then in lieu of stickers.



The original was a nice quick game, 48 blocks all told, and the system revolved around the French having two orders and the Allies (Anglo-Dutch allies) and Prussians having one each. A lot of the game revolved around manoeuvre.

The third edition (the "second" was really just the first, but published under licence by AH) increased the block count to 84 and the orders for the French went to 3, and for both allied sides to 2 each. I think the game was ok, but not as good as the original.

The fourth edition is mostly back to the first edition. It's going to have a few more blocks (55), introduces leaders, and also is trying to harmonize the rules from the original and third editions - in other words, make it the best of both worlds.

I think it'll be a great game when it comes out (I did back it on KS), but I think the original first edition is still the best one.

This was week two of spring break. The reason we have two weeks off in our school is two fold. One, our school district mirrors what the Vancouver School Board does. Two, the VSB went to two weeks as a cost saving measure. They add 8 minutes a day to the school day and then close an extra week which saves on custodians, heating, etc etc. I'm not sure how much they save, but it was a nice break. The first week my wife played "Camp Mom" and she and my daughter got up to all kinds of fun, and the second week my daughter went to art day camp. This is when my wife and I took one of the days to do Spring Cleaning phase I. We reamed out the garage and got one of the shelving units up that I've been meaning to get to for a long time. Among the things we unburied was my Crokinole board. I had of course lost the discs so while I was doing the take things to the recycle depot errand, I swung by Lee Valley Tools and bought another set.

My wife and I played a game, and she won, and I gotta say that as much as I enjoy Crokinole, a fancy board would be completely wasted on me since it's not something I desperately need to play. I enjoy it quite a bit, but if the board is not on the table or in plain sight, I never think about digging it out...

On Thursday my friend Jonathan invited me over for games and we played two rounds of scenario 51 of Combat Commander. I won as the French both times, and it seemed that every time I had to do a defensive roll I got a time trigger, and in both games I had the secret objective making every objective worth 3VP (first session) or 2VP (second session). The second game had a hilarious melee result where I placed mines when he activated his troops to advance on my commando unit, and broke all of them. He had an ambush card, and I didn't, but then his four units and my one tied on the resulting melee roll, and it was a net 7VP swing for me, but more importantly, killed four of his guys. Hilarity ensued. whistle

We then played Twilight Struggle. Now, I play regularly on the ACTS ladder, but it's just incredibly rare that I get to play TS live face to face with someone, and man does that game ever push all the right buttons for me. Must play live more!

Finally, I got completely crushed at a game of DC Comics Deck Building.

Last but not least, we had some friends over for dinner on Friday and we played Tell Tale and Eat Poop You Cat, and hilarity ensued.
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18. Board Game: The Way Things Work [Average Rating:4.70 Unranked]
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Oh hey, what, it's almost Wednesday?! What do you mean I have 120 unchecked subscriptions?!?!?

Well guys, it was one of those weeks, and I'm not proud to report that it was the first week where no games got played. I think the first week in nearly a year. I'm horribly behind on my pbem (2x games of 1889, the GCL HiS, and another game of TS with my brother), but I should have all of that sorted out soon.

Anyway, it's all the usual excuses with the addition of a couple of big things which I will announce in the next few weeks...

This week things are looking similar though Cati and I have already managed some C&C, and tomorrow we have a rematch of 1825 unit 2 scheduled (woo!) So, beyond that I thought I'd use this little post to talk a little bit about my Pax Porfiriana game that is just about done.

So, we are now at the bitter end of our game. As far as I can tell, almost all of us are in contention. We are at the last topple, and, what's more, the markets are beginning to deplete. There have been some really close calls throughout and every public card has been bought, and I think we've made our way into just about all the corners of the rules (if you've played Pax you know how hard this can be within the space of one game). The narrative of the game is so complicated and cloak and dagger that it would take me some considerable research to work up a session report. At this point 75% of the game has been in an unbelievably harsh depression. I'm the only one left with industries which I've been barely able to support from turn to turn. Added to that, I've spent the last 10 turns or so in jail. In fact, at one point, myself and Jorik were in jail for ~3-5 turns.

Sadly live Pax play has been cut drastically by the fact that the local players are off on research fellowships in disparate parts of the world, but this PBF game is keeping Pax on my mind.
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