Geek Chat League Gelato 60 - BGG, Nukes and Absent Friends
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A Geek Chat League is a weekly discussion-group format for people who love gaming and enjoy talking about games. It is intended to foster depth and familiarity, producing engaging content and worthwhile interaction. Members get to know one another, establish shared interests, and generally develop a friendly and productive environment.

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This week's Topic:

BGG, Nukes and Absent Friends

As tradition demands, here's my selection of music for the week. I always loved the Kinks and since this week's topic is a little more serious, I chose this song:



Our valued member Ania alias mrs_z nuked her account as has left BGG. Her GeekLists are lost, as are her posts and images. Down in Flames so to say. A loss for us all, as I always enjoyed Ania's comments and her insightful posts always enriched our conversations here.

So Ania, if you still read this, I think I speak for all of us here: We already miss you. So this week we'll talk a little about our BGG accounts, the community here and friends.

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1. Board Game: The BoardGameGeek Game [Average Rating:6.04 Overall Rank:4233]
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I'm now an active BGG user since 2009. After 4 years of participating, contributing and uploading my profile page is filled with microbadges and I'm a little proud about a few of them (like mb, mb and of course mb. I'm still looking for a way to get that Golden Camel!). Nuking my account would mean all these achievements are lost. Even if I change my mind after a time and register again here, my old account is gone. So if I would leave, I would only leave - but keep my account intact.

1 So, what must happen that you nuke your BGG account? Would you nuke it? Or would simply abandon it?
2 Have you ever been harassed by other users on the Geek?
3 Do you use other forums than the Geek? If yes, which ones?
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2. Board Game: Nuclear War [Average Rating:6.21 Overall Rank:2338] [Average Rating:6.21 Unranked]
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While talking about nuking, let's go back to our favorite topic: games. While entertaining ourselves with one or more good friends and fine games, we'll often find our counters, meeples or minis in the situation that they're are hoplessly behind and winning that particular game is no longer an option.

Some players tend to go along and still try to make the best out of that situation, others may attack the leader (and play kingmaker), and some use a different approach: nuke the game (meaning fire torpedoes in all directions to sabotage all other players or bring the game faster to an end. Examples would be going voluntarily bankrupt in 1830: Railways & Robber Barons or consequently build cheap planets and technologies in Race for the Galaxy to bring the game to a quicker end).

1 You are hopelessly behind in a multi-player game. What would you do?
2 You are hopelessly behind in a 2 player scenario of a wargame which could still go on for a few hours. What would you do?
3 Have you ever overreacted or seen another player overreacting because of losing?
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3. Board Game: Friends [Average Rating:4.01 Overall Rank:15341]
 
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A sad entry to this list. As most of us are middle-aged, we probably already experienced the loss of friends. How does that influence our lives and our hobby?

1 have you ever lost a friend?
2 do you still meet your friends from your schooldays or have you built a new circle of friends?
3 Just in case Ania is still reading this, leave her a message!
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4. Board Game: Funny Friends [Average Rating:6.47 Overall Rank:1672]
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And as the final entry to this week's a little serious list, please post a joke or a funny picture about Nukes or Absent Friends meeple
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5. Board Game: Viticulture [Average Rating:7.69 Overall Rank:122]
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So, what's new this week?

A friendly postman came by and brought me my kickstarter copy of Viticulture.

Also, last Sunday, Andrea and I removed everything from our kitchen, as on Monday some sturdy-built men came and ripped it out of our house wow

The floor tilers, painters and carpenters followed and yesterday - at 9 PM - the new kitchen was finished. Today Andrea and I stuffed all the things we temporarily stored in the living room back into our new kitchen and now I finally found the time to put up the new list meeple

All the noise and work didn't hinder me to have a game night, so two friends came over and we played ...

Viticulture - a new game (for Stig meeple). As all of us like drinking wine, the game was an instant hit. It worked really fine with three people and you feel a little like a winemaker while playing it. Also, it's a really beautiful game!

Belfort - also a first time play for us. Great worker placement game, very lovely topic and interesting mechanisms. Very solid design.

After a break at the local Chinese Restaurant, we went back to the gaming table.

Kurt asked for Bora Bora, so we put that one on the table. I'm not really a fan of it, as I think it is too much overloaded with stuff and it has way too many colors. gulp However, it's basically not a bad game, it's just that I don't have much love for it.

We concluded the evening with a game of Saint Petersburg - an all time classic with my gaming buddies.
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6. Board Game: Angola [Average Rating:8.02 Overall Rank:1752]
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Our PBEM Angola game is reaching a climax I think. The FAPLA/MAPLA forces are having to take bigger risks because it's late in the game and we're behind. We'll see how the Battle of Teixeira da Sousa goes...

World in Flames: my Soviets in the FTF game have just taken Bucharest and are massing for an assault on Leningrad. In my vassal/skype game, my Germans just took Vitebsk and have crossed the Dnepr. It's Jul/Aug '41 so much will depend on how long the turn goes.

Jon and I starting the penultimate turn of For the People - and at the end of this turn the Union has its elections...

My solo game of The Russian Campaign is going to be a Soviet romp I think. Their units are strong and the Germans (and allies) are growing too few to adequately defend...
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7. Board Game: Risorgimento 1859 [Average Rating:6.95 Overall Rank:5617]
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This Week:

For the People (Wendell)
Unhappy King Charles! (x2; one with King Roger I)
Red Winter: The Soviet Attack at Tolvajärvi, Finland – 8-12 December 1939
Warriors of God
Shifting Sands

All PBEM


Misc:

- What? Elections in FtP this turn?? Yipes!

- UKC rambles along in both sessions. I luckily avoided a rampaging King Charles (Roger) outside of London and he has laid siege now to Reading, which I had taken from him earlier. Meanwhile, the conquered Royalist South is showing signs of recovery. My previous gains are slipping away ...

- In Red Winter, we discovered that Russian OBA (off board artillery) can be a difference maker in a battle.

- Desperate times for the Axis in Shifting Sands. I am reduced to risky attacks to salvage some important hexes. It will be for naught I fear.

- Enjoying the nicer weather. Well, it has not been raining as much of late, so sitting outside and relaxing becomes more pleasant. I dragged the laptop out there for some PBEM play even. Ahhhhh .....

- Finally finished the counters for Decision: Iraq and have it now on my physical table. Pleasant enough to look at which is always a bonus. But how does it play ...... there's the rub! I have been poking through the rules.

- As a distraction, I have been looking over my various grand tactical games trying to figure out what I want to play with this Fall/Winter. Flip flopping like a maniac, I first have one series in mind, then another. My initial thoughts started with The Battle of Fontenoy: 11 May, 1745 from the BAR series. However, I have been drifting into GBACW since I own several books on their subjects and thought a nice game/book combo would be ideal. The front runner there is First Bull Run from Red Badge of Courage since the counters are clipped. Hmm.... maybe I will play that now? Finally, I have been looking over Solferino from Risorgimento 1859 since it is a simpler system than the current GBACW, which is an appeal in itself. (EDIT: This is a exercise that I do from time to time and then never carry through with the actually playing part. Yes, I am weird).
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8. Board Game: 1805: Sea of Glory [Average Rating:7.39 Overall Rank:2821]
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Finally picked my running game of this up again at the club. The Allied fleets raided Bantry Bay and avoided my grasp, heading for the Caribbean. After failing to hold Naples (missed getting my expedition there to stop the Admiralty Event by TWO HEXES angry) costing me 10 points, and Bantry Bay another 2 points, and completely blowing my spotting rolls for a chance to destroy the bulk of the Allied fleet, I decided to double down and, rather than chase the Allied fleet to the West Indies, heavily blockaded all the Spanish ports in an attempt to intercept the Gold Fleet, which, thanks to some spotting work in the West Indies, I knew was on the Atlantic Transit Track and returning shortly.

Finally, I got some luck, as I spotted the fleet heading into port at Ferrol, won the wind gauge, and, outgunning the Allied fleet 150 to 87, proceeded to pound the crap out of them! Sunk 5 ships, wrecked something like 20, and damaged the rest, and removed the Gold Fleet from play, costing the Allied player those VP's. That put me back in the game, and now it's going to be a showdown in the West Indies, I think, as my massive African Fleet (was the Atlantic Fleet, until I split Nelson and the bulk of the ships off of their blockade of Cadiz) hits the transit track to the West Indies, for a major showdown as the Allies try to raid three of my Caribbean ports.

Tomorrow, EiA resumes!

Also, have Summer Storm: The Battle of Gettysburg on my table at home, set up for 7:00 AM July 1st, but haven't started the game yet.
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9. Board Game: No Retreat! The Russian Front [Average Rating:7.86 Overall Rank:657]
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Games

Memoir '44: Campaign Book Volume 2 x2
Space Hulk: Death Angel – The Card Game x1
No Retreat! The Russian Front x1

Memoir was the last 2 breakthrough scenarios from the Normandy Breakthrough campaign. I lost both scenarios and the campaign branch, but the took the overall Normandy Breakthrough campaign win.
I have now played through all the campaigns in CB2, some multiple times, as well as all the other official campaigns for Memoir, save for the last half of Audie Murphy. Hopefully we see more campaigns for Memoir soon.

Death Angel was a short game where i was dead halfway trhough the spawnpile on the second location. Fun game, and when things go downhill, they go downhill at breakneck speed.

No Retreat was the Fall Blau scenario and the Germans gained a lot of ground in the south, but forgot about he north of Moscow a bit, so the frontline wasbeyond Stalingrad at one point in the south, and adjacent to Kiev in the north. Germans stemmed the tide in the north, but lost a lot of ground around Stalingrad on the last turn. After having 30VP the Germans fell to 27VP on the last Russian turn of the scenario, but that was enough for a win. Fun to try this scenario. A good one where you saw the turning of the tide better than in Barbarossa, which is historically correct.

Unplayed game challenge
I think my entry will be Race for the Galaxy in the solitaire form from the expansion. I've had this game for almost 2 years, and have only looked at the rules and cards, but never gotten anything done with it.

Life
Son turned 2 this weekend.
I watched Das Boot. Awesome is the correct word.
What are your favourite warmovie?
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10. Board Game: Macao [Average Rating:7.44 Overall Rank:242]
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This is the week that was:
Eight-Minute Empire 2
1989: Dawn of Freedom 1
Glen More 1
Macao 1
Pax Porfiriana 1
Scrabble 1

A light gaming week, and indeed, save for Friday night at my friend Jonathan's place, no live gaming at all.

So let's begin with the live gaming...

Jonathan and I opened with a game of Eight Minute Empire, and his wife joined us. I managed to win for once, but only because they were newbies to the game I think. I still really like the game - it's not the most brilliant game ever made, but it's quick and and there's enough there to make it interesting and short enough that if you lose who cares. It's really the perfect "let's play something while we wait for our last player to show up" and "one more for the road" game.

Jono mentioned that there's a KS project for the standalone game/expansion Eight Minute Empire: Legends, and so I went and hopped aboard for the package that lets me get the original game (in July) and Legends when it comes out (likely January).

After that he taught me Macao, which would have earned Jonathan the point for Stig's June challenge. It's what I like to call a cube converter (aka cube pusher), in that there's enough of a nicely integrated theme layered on to get me engaged, and then the mechanics are accumulating and converting various resources into victory points at the end. I managed to win which helped endear the game to me, and I have to say it's a toss up whether I like Macao or Castles of Burgundy better. As I mentioned to Jono, I'd have to play Macao as many times as I've played CoB before I could really make a proclamation, but suffice to say I enjoyed it.

Then we played one of my favourite discoveries from BGG.Con 2010, Glen More. I was absolutely crushed in whisky production, but Jono didn't get a forest tile which seriously hampered his ability to build because the forest market was used up, and I sailed to a crushing victory.

Then we played one more game of Eight Minute Empire, and he won.

In the mean time, I accepted two more pbem games to play in - one of 1989, and another of Pax. There's also going to be a Pax rematch starting tomorrow with the game I'd just finished.

I'm also about to embark on a pbem game of Starship Troopers. Hey Stig, I've owned a copy that game forever it seems - does a pbem game count for the challenge?

Meanwhile, in PBEM land:
- three games of HIS left, one having just ended with a Protestant auto-win. Our Gelato game is listing and taking on water fast. The other two games are running into late spring/early summer vacation delays, but still going.
- two games of TS. One ladder game which is going south for me (I'm on a multi-game losing streak), and the other seems to have been abandoned by my opponent.
- one game of Unhappy King Charles, with Jon. The King just took reading back with his major army and siege train...
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11. Board Game: The Berenstain Bears Messy Room Game [Average Rating:4.67 Unranked]
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No games this week. soblue

I have to clean out the game room instead. It is a mess.

However, there is a bright side to the story. I'll be finding stuff to list on that internet auction site. The money I make will help to cover the [CLASSIFIED: TOP SECRET] dollars I've spent on army men this year. shake
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12. Board Game: Iron and Oak [Average Rating:6.74 Overall Rank:5050]
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Iron and Oak x1 (7.5)
Tammany Hall x2 (9)
Cards Against Humanity x1 where we played through the full set (7)
Imperial x1 (8)
Glory to Rome x2 (8.5)
Archipelago x1 (9)

It was a very handsome week of games here in Austin. I only worked part time this week so I had plenty of extra hours to attend to all sorts of little things and clean about half the house. The other half will get put in order after I finish this post.

Most of my games this week were with a friend who's getting ready to leave. At summer's end for NYC and a Philosophy Ph.D. program. It's a great program but I'll be sad to see him leave. He's a very open gamer and seems happy to try whatever.

We played a couple sessions of Glory to Rome. I managed the lion's share of victory's but he found his footing and the last match and managed a closely fought victory 22-20. A little later on in the week we played a game of Archipelago with Cati where I pulled out a victory 12-11-11. Every time I start playing this game I question my opinion of it. It seems so languid and unfocused at the start, but, by the end, I'm singing it's praises anew. It is a deeply weird game that almost defies description. I'm glade I've got a few players that enjoy the game but I wish they would be a little meaner and push the game a little closer to collapse.

Friday I stopped by a local game store with my copy of Imperial in tow. It's been years since I've played it but I found I remembered the rules pretty easily and pretty soon we were off to the races. What a charming game! My only concern is that the end game positioning is a little too "swingy" and it becomes very difficult to put yourself in a position for that x5 jump.

Saturday Cati and I had some friends over for lighter games. I had planned on lots of short stuff but everyone wanted to play Cards Against Humanity and the person who ran the table wanted to go through all the black cards. The game took 2.5 hours and was enjoyable but I think next time I will insist on a 30 minute time limit. Afterwards we played a double header of Tammany Hall and then watched the film Ashes of Time by Wong Kar-wai.

Today I introduced Cati to Iron and Oak who soundly trounced me. We played the 3rd mission ("Vicksburg Blockade") and my poor wooden ships melted before the Arkansas. She had a huge number of critical hits and managed to sink my entire fleet by turn 14. I think I got a couple of rules wrong but the game was enjoyable and I'm interested in exploring the system more. I don't know if we will keep doing the missions though--I mainly just want to do the campaign game.

Life news:
I don't know if I mentioned this last week but it looks like Cati and I will be having a boy. We don't know for sure but it seems a reasonable chance. We are pretty pumped!

Also, I got a pile of funding so it looks like, come late August, I'll be hopping on a plane for London and presenting at the British Association of Victorian Studies. I've got just enough money to stay there 10 days--most of which will be spent at the British Museum and the Bodleian at Oxford to get a little info I can use to polish a couple of articles I'm working on. I've never been off the continent before (I always dreamed someone would pay me to go whistle), so I'm pretty stoked to do some exploring!

Game news:
I'm in the middle of a smallish game sale (mostly complete) and a larger game give away to locals and etc. This is brought on by two things: The release of Duel of Ages II and the new Winsome set. Cati and I have a standing 50% rule which says that if I want to acquire anything new I need to get rid of double (figured as value/shelf-space). I remember loving Duel of Ages a few years ago and I think my current group would really get into it. It also fills a weird "thematic" hole in my collection. It should get here on Tuesday and I imagine will be on the table that night. (Note: this disqualifies the hell out of my aspirations to only play old games this month)

Looking at my now, further pared down collection, I'm pretty happy with it. But I'm imagining one more cut to come before the baby arrives.

Lastly I have almost learned Nothing Gained but Glory. Expect a report next week. It looks awesome!
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