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These days it's a real dilemma when the latest redesign/reissue of an old favorite title comes out--if you buy it, do keep the earlier version(s)? In a number of cases, the decision isn't a hard one, especially when there were significant flaws in the original edition. But then a wargame title has gone through multiple editions, then it's not so easy at times. Of course if you keep those previous editions, they take up shelf/footlocker/closet space.

An example of where I could let go of earlier versions was when Streets of Stalingrad (third edition) came out. I immediately let go of not only of the two NOVA games Fire on the Volga and Battle for the Factories, but the original PHOENIX Streets of Stalingrad went to auction, too. Even more heretical, while I kept a shrink copy of Squad Leader I let go both punched/played and shrink/mint copies of the gamettes: Cross of Iron, Crescendo of Doom, and G.I. Anvil of Victory. Advanced Squad Leader was a passion of mine and all the old series scenarios had been tweaked and republished for that system, as were the geomorphic mopboards. No reason to keep these and some one else would love them more than I could now. They gave me immense pleasure once but I'd moved on.

On the other hand, I have Napoleon at Leipzig (fifth edition). That's right--fifth edition. I still have the original OSG version, the second, third, and fourth editions put out by Clash of Arms Games. Why won't I get rid of any of them? I can't see myself playing them anymore than I could the Stalingrad games. Too much nostalgia, I guess. I still spread out those incredible maps and recall phenomenal campaigns enjoyed with each of them. Maybe when I get more crunched for space I'll let two of the three COA editions walk out the door, but they are punched, well-loved...who would want them?

What old editions/versions of games can't you let go of? Which ones have you cast off and not looked back? Are there any ones you parted with and now wish you still had?
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I still have my old punched and well-loved GDW copy and there is no way I'm letting it go. Compass Games, I must admit, did a stellar job with this Designer's Edition. It's much like the older title and I'm glad a new generation of wargamers can get into such a venerable classic. The old GDW flat box title is just that iconic. It's now stored with ancient AH flat box classics and near-classics.
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2. Board Game: Panzerkrieg [Average Rating:6.39 Overall Rank:5101]
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When I finally got the Six Angles version from Japan and downloaded the English rules and scenarios, I knew I was never going back to those earlier editions that I had from OSG, Avalon Hill, and CoSi. All these had carried forward flaws in the original OSG edition into theirs; these the Six Angles version largely fixed. I will caveat this by saying I kept the earlier RAND game, VON MANSTEIN: BATTLES FOR THE UKRAINE 1941-1944 (1975), that had inspired and heavily influenced the later title. That game too had its flaws but was such a benchmark design for its time--we had nothing else that covered so much of the Eastern Front in one thin box. One can argue PANZERKRIEG has had its day and--even with the facelift--is best left behind in favor of other titles that cover the scenario situations in the game. Well, I understand that but the title still has its charms--I'll just keep the latest version. The others have long since gone at auction.
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3. Board Game: Age of Napoleon [Average Rating:6.87 Overall Rank:1746]
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Such a beautiful game...

And the upcoming third edition will have new art... cry

So I'll be keeping this one.
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4. Board Game: History of the World [Average Rating:7.13 Overall Rank:629]
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I have the first Avalon Hill edition (pictured); I've played a later version and you know, I prefer the one I have.
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5. Board Game: World in Flames [Average Rating:7.52 Overall Rank:986] [Average Rating:7.52 Unranked]
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I have (I think)3.0, 5.0, Final (along with the various add-ons), and the newest edition. Dread the thought of pitching them, don't want to inventory them, doubt they are worth anything. My kids can worry about them when they process my estate.

The same rationale also keeps my copies of Krieg and Totaler Krieg hanging around as well.
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You kidding me? ASL is pretty much the only thing I do. It's the lowest cost game system around as I play THE heck out of it week after week after week ..
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7. Board Game: Imperium [Average Rating:6.86 Overall Rank:2737]
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The Avalanche Press edition simply is not an improvement on the original GDW versions! So, while I have all of them, I find myself playing the older editions. Just sayin'.

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8. Board Game: Russia Besieged: Deluxe Edition [Average Rating:8.87 Unranked]
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The Compass Games Designer's Edition is simply superior to the older (and quite well regarded) L2 version with expansion pack:



Having difficulty deciding whether to keep or let go of the earlier edition. I'll never play it anymore given this latest version. Still, the L2 game is still a marvelous physical product.
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9. Board Game: The African Campaign: Designer Signature Edition [Average Rating:7.78 Overall Rank:7562]
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Another Compass Games Designer's Edition--faithful to the original game but a huge graphical upgrade and some very simple variants. However, I had two of the earlier edition games--the TSR one in flatbox that had the map buckle and bubble (and so thrown out but I saved the rules and counters) and a second JEDKO edition in a bookcase box (which I have kept). I played the first TSR edition TO DEATH. It may be gone--for the most part (out went the banged up box and broken board) but the second edition is unpunched (I used the punched counters from the earlier edition)--but I have very fond memories of playing it! Will I give up the bookcase box JEDKO edition. Hell, no!

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10. Board Game: Napoleon's Last Battles [Average Rating:7.18 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.18 Unranked]
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I had the original SPI quadrigame of this, and also got the TSR version, then the Decision Games remake, and now--of course--the latest Decision Games version. You'd think I'd toss out/auction off all the earlier editions. Nope. Just can't do it!



Call it the powerful pull of nostalgia as I've played all but this latest edition. I'll have to give the newest version a try, but I'll likely love it just as much as all the other editions. Many four-player campaign games in my personal wargaming history and there's no way I can part with the artifacts of all those incredible gaming sessions. Just how it is.
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11. Board Game: Three Days of Gettysburg (third edition) [Average Rating:7.47 Overall Rank:3832]
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I have a number of Gettysburg monster games, foremost among them Last Chance for Victory (MMP) and Summer Storm: The Battle of Gettysburg COA). But then I've got this edition. I bought earlier versions of this game--The Three Days of Gettysburg (second edition) and even The Three Days Of Gettysburg (first edition), which I auctioned off when I got the Third Edition. Perhaps more heretical, I also sold off Terrible Swift Sword: Battle of Gettysburg Game Second Edition (TSR/SPI). Never had the original TSS but I'd played it. Don't feel any nostalgic attachment to any of the earlier games.

So this is how it is!



Okay, some will understand why I might not have an attachment to the earlier GMT editions, or even the TSR/SPI TSS Second Edition. But the original TSS? Really? Listen as cool as that game was when it was first published, the state of the art has seriously passed it by. Same reason I can't play PanzerBlitz anymore!
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12. Board Game: Rise and Decline of the Third Reich [Average Rating:6.83 Overall Rank:1491]
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I've kept my fourth edition of the game and given away my beat up copies of the first through third editions. There's just so many copies of the fourth edition out there for a very reasonable price on the secondary market--if you are at all interested in the game, you owe it to yourself to snap up a copy for a song. Sure, there are LOTS of games on WWII ETO, but this one seems to endure long past its 1974 creation date, even today. This wargame still fascinates, and while its potential for history to "go off the rails" isn't as high as more contemporary designs, it captures its subject quite well nevertheless. I simply love the five player game.


Advanced Third Reich

I'd played this version which has far more possibilities built into it with the added cost of complexity both in the rules and in formulating strategies in the game. Sold it and its companion Empire of the Rising Sun off when A World at War was published by GMT as it seemed to be an update of both these titles (and indeed it turned out to be). So I never had to look back with regret.
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13. Board Game: War in Europe (second edition) [Average Rating:7.21 Overall Rank:8612]
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Lots of improvements over the SPI original, although there remains a few flaws that are a product of the design philosophy of taking an operational warfare game system dating from the early 1970s and wrapping a basic strategic system around it. The best aspect of the game for many players is the production system, and this edition adds Allied production in lieu of a mere reinforcement/arrival track affected by the U-boat war.

Word has it that there is an even newer edition in the works at Decision Games.



I auctioned off my well-loved/worn flatpack copy of War in Europe along with an unpunched soapbox edition of War In The East (Second Edition). I'd played this game a good bit and had little nostalgia even though there were many good memories. Haven't missed them.
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14. Board Game: War in the Pacific (second edition) [Average Rating:7.75 Overall Rank:6711]
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A truly massive game, the Decision Games second edition both expanded and streamlined the original SPI title. The land and logistics systems got a welcome redesign as the former had difficulties handling both the large campaigns in China as well as the island battles. The newer edition opted for scores of tactical maps covering the Pacific islands so that better resolution of those island operations could be simulated (the good news is that most of them aren't going to be in play until you nee them!). The cumbersome and detailed logistics system of the original required as much pre-planning as the notorious The Campaign for North Africa. There are also quite a few more touches thrown in. Best of all, the general naval system remains relatively unchanged.



I'd played a scenario of the old War in the Pacific (first edition) and even tried adapting it to Fresno Game Association's rip-off title, The Eagle and the Sun which had better looking maps and gorgeous ship counters. Soon as the Decision Games version came out, I let both of these go. Haven't tried the newer version yet which I suspect will have plenty of quirks of its own. There's likely no way I'd get through a campaign on the table; it would have to be a multi-year project played on the internet. I do hope to try a scenario, however.
 
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15. Board Game: Highway to the Reich (third edition) [Average Rating:7.40 Overall Rank:7194]
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This is arguably the best SPI monster game redesign Decision Games has done; it feels a great deal like playing the original but has undergone a good bit of upgrading. Graphically, the counters and map feel a bit more subdued in color and presentation, but the former is less abstract. The timescale has changed and the armor/anti-armor interaction improved, but the game system--for better or worse--is much like the original in portraying tactical battles. There still a lot of counters to manage (particularly for XXX Corps) and it appears that the campaign game might suffer from some of the same issues as the earlier version regarding whether to play with a seven-hex frontage for XXX Corps centered on Club Route or let it advance wherever it can. In the earlier game, the narrow frontage usually meant XXX Corps could not get farther north fast enough to win (using free setup/drop zones for the Allied 1st Airborne Corps mitigated this to some extent); with those restrictions lifted it seemed the Germans did not have a chance. Haven't gotten enough time with this title to make a definitive judgment on this.



I had a punched flatpack and mint ziplock version of the older SPI title that I auctioned off once I got the Decision Games edition and got a scenario under my belt. As much as I loved--and I really loved--the SPI original I had no qualms about parting with it.

Highway to the Reich (third edition) hasn't had much play since I acquired it, mostly because I became completely fascinated with Adam Starkweather's efforts to simulate OPERATION MARKET-GARDEN in MMP's ambitious Grand Tactical Series titles, The Devil's Cauldron: The Battles for Arnhem and Nijmegen and Where Eagles Dare. As of this writing (August 2018), MMP has announced these two games are getting an upgrade to GTS V2.0 and could be published in a combined package as early as September 2019. So I doubt I'll get the Decision Games treatment out for a spin again anytime soon.
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16. Board Game: Fury in the West [Average Rating:6.57 Overall Rank:5969]
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I remember getting the first Battleline edition of this game and falling in love with it. There was nothing else like it in portraying the effects of straggling and there was little else on the battle of Shiloh at the time. It was a no-brainer in getting the Avalon Hill edition once it came out. But I eventually auctioned off both; a lot of other games on this particular battle have since been published--some of them at least as good if not better. So I reluctantly parted with both editions of the game and haven't looked back. I'd nevertheless recommend it, especially since the price point on the secondary market is still pretty reasonable.

 
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17. Board Game: Napoleon at Bay: Defend the Gates of Paris, 1814 [Average Rating:7.63 Overall Rank:5629]
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This is arguably the best (as well as the first) title in Kevin Zucker's original Campaigns of Napoleon System: 1x Series. It's gone through a number of editions and each one has its fans. Despite its horrible box cover, many prefer the Avalon Hill bookcase box edition for the clean map enhancing ease of play. Yes, I have kept them all!

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18. Board Game: Duel of Eagles [Average Rating:7.33 Unranked]
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This magazine game is the third implementation of Duel of Eagles I and II. The changes between editions were mostly cosmetic/graphical. This system would eventually grow up into a much bigger simulation, At Any Cost: Metz 1870 which basically supsedes everything else. I still like the earlier implementations, although I did auction the original since I had the second edition. Haven't parted with it even given the magazine game and big GMT cousin. If you've got the latter, you really don't need these as the Mars La Tour scenario plays very similarly.



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19. Board Game: Kursk: Operation Zitadelle, 4 July 1943 [Average Rating:5.98 Overall Rank:10952]
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This was the first title in what would become termed the SPI "Divisional Series" of games. Of all in the series, I've only kept a few: The Moscow Campaign and NATO: Operational Combat in Europe in the 1970's. The first game was a farewell present to me as I gave up my office of President, Strategic Games Club, Colonel Zadok Magruder High School. The second is priceless as it portrays how the designer saw a conventional conflict in Europe (hypothetical World War III). But the rest have been superseded by other titles in my mind so I didn't have any misgivings auctioning them off for a song as they had been well played/loved.


The Game of France, 1940: German Blitzkrieg in the West -- originally published in Strategy and Tactics magazine and subsequently produced by Avalon Hill. Despite the variant OOBs designed the give the Allies a chance, the game system and counter values stacked the deck in favor of the Germans.


Turning Point: The Battle of Stalingrad -- Quite possibly the best game of the series because of its high level of balance in competitive play, particularly when playing without the "Hitler Idiocy" rules keeping Sixth Army's boots nailed to the ground on the first turn.


Breakout & Pursuit -- This was generally successful in modeling the Allied liberation of France, particularly regarding the supply constraints!


Destruction of Army Group Center -- Given its subject, this was not a favorite in the series, but still did well in modeling the German possibilities had they pulled back the Belorussian front.

 
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20. Board Game: Battles for the Ardennes [Average Rating:7.37 Overall Rank:3208]
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One of my favorite games of the SPI line and I've gotten/kept every edition since then. Not only did each of the smaller folio sized game fit together to create a campaign of the Battle of the Bulge, but one could also recreate the German 1940 drive as well!




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21. Board Game: COBRA: The Normandy Campaign [Average Rating:6.94 Overall Rank:6308]
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This title represents Decision Games' best effort in improving old favorite SPI wargames and ranks as the top edition of the three. The first was a one-mapper of the breakout, using a modified Panzergruppe Guderian system and published in Strategy & Tactics magazine. The second was a TSR/SPI effort that added another map so players could replicate the entire Normandy campaign from the landings to the breakout. The newest Decision Games edition improves the TSR/SPI version and published it--appropriately enough--once again in Strategy & Tactics! I've still kept the earlier versions but would never play them again, given the latest and greatest edition.

 
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22. Board Game: Panzergruppe Guderian [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:1866]
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This game rocked the wargaming world when it was first published in Strategy & Tactics magazine. The system seemed quite familiar but have a few wrinkles and riffs that made it feel fresh. The most important thing about the system was how asymmetrical it was for the players, whether the German or the Soviet. Each side played completely differently. Other titles in the series followed, but none could beat the original game. The AH edition is the best with just minor improvements to the game.

These days everything is outdated compared to more recent efforts. I've kept everything save for Drive on Stalingrad (first edition) which--to me--was very disappointing. Other games have filled in that niche. But I do drag out these others from time to time as they still entice.



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23. Board Game: Drive on Stalingrad (second edition) [Average Rating:6.94 Overall Rank:6096]
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None of the editions going by this name are really attention grabbers. Decision Games did a redesign which really broke up the situation into two separate situations/scenarios: (1) Operation Blue and then (2) the Soviet counterattack. The two are not connected. It's just merely an okay game. The earlier TSR/SPI and SPI editions just could not live up to their promise, even with the published errata. Others might disagree, but I'm still waiting for a solid medium-sized game on the subject. I've sold off all my editions and haven't ever missed them.



 
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24. Board Game: Frederick the Great [Average Rating:6.89 Overall Rank:3040]
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The SPI version published in Strategy & Tactics was an instant classic, but the Avalon Hill edition is clearly the best, particularly with the Silesian Wars variant published in The General magazine.



You just gotta love the names leaders in the Avalon Hill edition plus the Silesian Wars variant.

3W did a version that looked very similar to these other editions, but it's a game unto its own:



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25. Board Game: Empires & Alliances [Average Rating:7.68 Unranked]
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The designer of the old Avalon Hill The Guns of August takes the basic system of the game and redesigns a more simplified version. So, while the two editions are related, they are not quite the same game. For one thing, the map is huge (four map sheets)! I liked the hobbyist-generated improvements to the original title (making it the so-called Fourth Edition) well enough to keep my copy. Certainly it's not a game for everybody. The new Compass Games alternative--while a lot simpler and faster to play--may not be either.

 
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