Heavy Ameritrash - Long May It Wave!
The Grouch
United States
Tucson
Arizona
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This geeklist was inspired by this thread and my response to it. It is dedicate to games that, while clearly Ameritrash, have complex rules sets and "heavy" mechanics. I'll start this list with my favorites. Please add your so I know what I want next on my wish list.
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The Grouch
United States
Tucson
Arizona
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You had me at "Marvel". I grew up on Iron Man, Captain America, The Incredible Hulk, Spiderman, Daredevil, Dr. Strange and the lot. Stan Lee is a god to me. Any wonder I asked for this the Christmas it came out? Complicated rules, but a ripping good time to play, even if I'm getting mopped up by everyone else. Getting "most wanted" villians into play and rootig for them is great fun.
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Board Game: Arkham Horror
[Average Rating:7.32 Overall Rank:237]
[Average Rating:7.32 Unranked]
The Grouch
United States
Tucson
Arizona
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If you are a Trekker who's played this game, then you know why this is funny:
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The Grouch
United States
Tucson
Arizona
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I re-read The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy every couple of years. I've seen the extended DVDs of Peter Jackson's films more times than I can count without going shoeless like a hobbit. I grew up playing Risk and Axis & Allies. And it's by the same designers as Marvel Heroes (above). What's not to like?
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The Grouch
United States
Tucson
Arizona
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War of the Ring (First Edition) not complicated enough for you? Just add this. Having Ents and Black Ships figures on the boards really satisfies the bits whore in me.
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The Grouch
United States
Tucson
Arizona
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Fizzbin? Arkham Horror? AMATEURS! Forget HeroQuest, Treasures & Traps and all those other light, easy to learn and play dungeon crawls. This game gives you the complete fantasy RPG experience without the dungeon master. Of course, even the streamlined, fan edited Third Edition Rules are still thicker than the rulebook from the D&D Basic Set.
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The Grouch
United States
Tucson
Arizona
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I debated about including this as - given my penchant for complex rules - this doesn't seem all that complicated to me. But it is meatier than your average "family Euro". When I first discovered this game, my reaction was "Wow! Risk on steroids!".
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The Grouch
United States
Tucson
Arizona
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Since I've mentioned Axis & Allies, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this - especially since I am fortunate enough to be one of its playtesters! I'm glad Mike Selinker is one of its designers. He amazed me with 3rd Edition Axis & Allies by taking a good game and making it even better. With this he's taking a game that was somewhat disappointing and made it shine! Remember the Eagle Games tag line of "The Games You've Always Dreamed Of?" This promises to be the Attack! you've always dreamed of!
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Board Game: Junta
[Average Rating:6.75 Overall Rank:950]
The Grouch
United States
Tucson
Arizona
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Now in it's third edition, this politically incorrect "screw your neighbor" game is a blast. Much of the game is political - each player is the head of a powerful and corrupt family running a poor banana republic trying to vote for the budget that will funnel the most foreign aid money into their Swiss bank accounts.
But beware! Each player also holds a cabinte position with control of some of the tiny nation's military or police forces. Frustrated cabinet members can start a coup, causing a wargame-within-the-game to break out that may shake up who's in charge and lines the losers up for the firing squad after the dust settles. Evil, devious fun.
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The Grouch
United States
Tucson
Arizona
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Can you get any more Ameritrashy than Steve Jackson Games? I first read Robert Anton Wilson's subversive and scandalous Illuminatus Trilogy in college and enjoyed it immensely, so it's no wonder I was drawn to this game. But if you are expecting something as light-weight as Munchkin, think again, my friend.
Spoiler (click to reveal) The Orbital Mind Control Lasers are telling you to FNORD!
Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!
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Canada
Cambridge
Ontario
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Lots of rules and a long yet intense playing time!
The "Light Euro" version: "Scotland Yard"
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Canada
Cambridge
Ontario
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This certainly deserves to make the list! What an epic, lovely monster!
The "Light AT" version: "Galactic Emperor"
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Cambridge
Ontario
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It stands to reason that if TI:3 would make the list, then this ought to as well.
The "Light AT" version: "Nexus Ops"
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Canada
Cambridge
Ontario
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It has plenty of rules, but weighing in at over 10 pounds, it is literally very heavy!
The "Light AT" version: "Memoir '44"
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Canada
Cambridge
Ontario
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If you're going to include Axis and Allies and Attack! Deluxe, then this big, beautiful work of art (which is also very hefty in weight)...
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Board Game: Ikusa
[Average Rating:7.01 Overall Rank:689]
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Cambridge
Ontario
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...and this great classic that comes with a 31-page rulebook and a 20"X12"X4" box (I have 2 copies occupying my game shelf!) surely deserve to be here.
The "Medium AT" version: "Samurai & Katana"
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Canada
Cambridge
Ontario
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Just learned this one last weekend. By the end of the game, I had an idea of what I was supposed to be doing.
The "Medium AT" version: "Joan of Arc"
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Not heavy on mechanics, but a great game that is so Ameri-trash. If you want a heavier game, make some house rules to tack on - but this is the Game I have waited my Whole Life For ( I am 40 )
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Just call me Erik
United States
Waldorf
Maryland
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Heavy, and heavymetal. AT sci-fi wargame!
Hold on, I need to check the running rules...you changed direction on pavement in the rain...roll a piloting check for a skid...
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Eugene Ko
United States
Lakewood
Colorado
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If you're going to include Axis & Allies and Samurai Swords, you can't leave out the third member of that Milton Bradley trinity...
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Larz Welo
United States
Las Cruces
New Mexico
No more stones. No more spears. No more slings. No more swords. No more weapons! NO MORE SYSTEMS!
You can fire your arrows from the Tower of Babel, but you can never strike God!
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I know that it's old and my copy is a folio game, but when I look at the vast rules, the complexity of gameplay, the disparity of the armies, the 96 different items to roll for per turn, the 55 different items to roll for every battle, the colored map with 20 different charts printed on it, the intensive order of battle, the incredible differences from the first Crusade to the third, and the general subject matter, it makes me blink in shock and say, "dang, maybe I don't want to play this game."
However, many others on BGG clap their hands in glee and say, "I can't wait to try out that game! What do I need a weekend for?!"
This post does make me feel old and out of place though...see...this game uses chits, not those new-fangled shinny pretty things that all look alike.
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Alex Henderson
Cayman Islands
Grand Cayman
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Many of the items on this list so far are not "heavy" at all. But this one is. A unit of game time = 0.4 seconds. A dense, 36 page rule book describes the many options open to your character on each time slice. By Richard Hamblen, who also designed Magic Realm.
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