Deep two-player card games with a standard 52 card deck- help me find them.
Nick Bentley
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The title says it well enough. Please help me find the deepest standard deck card games for two players. I don't really know any, except for one or two, possibly: Cribbage, which I haven't actually played but for once when I was like 12, and another new game called transposition, which isn't in the BGG database, but can be played in real time at the ig game center.
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1. Board Game: Cribbage [Average Rating:7.03 Overall Rank:554]
Nick Bentley
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Alright, here's the only game that even remotely fits the description. You take it from here.
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This geeklist seems to have lots of goodies.


So where can I find the rules to the "transportation" game you mentioned?
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3. Board Game: Mate [Average Rating:6.74 Overall Rank:8355]
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From Sid Sackson's A Gamut of Games. Uses less than the full 52 cards, but is a both a brain-burner and good fun.
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4. Board Game: Gin Rummy [Average Rating:6.18 Overall Rank:3172]
Scott Muldoon (silentdibs)
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Surprisingly deep, with lots of opportunity for bluff and intelligence gathering.
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5. Board Game: Schnapsen [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:4253]
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A GREAT trick-taking and card-counting game... you have to memorize the points and with everything else going on, that can be a real head-hurter: http://www.pagat.com/marriage/schnaps.html

And the cool thing is that it's exclusively 2-players, so there's more ability to play the game
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6. Board Game: Haggis [Average Rating:7.01 Overall Rank:684]
 
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This looks pretty good.
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7. Board Game: Army Ants [Average Rating:6.42 Overall Rank:9222]
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If you're looking for something of a boardgame feel using just a standard 52 card deck, this one should do the trick . . .
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8. Board Game: Bezique [Average Rating:6.41 Overall Rank:8308]
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It requires two standard packs, with 2-6 removed. Not sure how complex you're looking for, but this is by far my favorite two player card game. Can be played deep, or light and fluffy.
 
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9. Board Game: Casino [Average Rating:6.26 Overall Rank:5243]
Hank Meyer
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This one is a sleeper...often overlooked because of its rather odd mechanisms...but, if you can keep track of the cards, well, you'll kick booty big time.
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10. Board Game: Druid's Duel [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
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Just came across this one from Invisiblr City - looks like a gem.
 
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11. Board Game: Piquet [Average Rating:6.53 Overall Rank:8857]
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As far as "deep" two player card games go, my first thought is Piquet. Even though it's not my favorite, I consider it a hidden gem among two player card games. Piquet demands expertise in three phases: discard-exchange, declaring, and trick-taking--usually with trade-offs between them. Piquet has a somewhat antiquated feel compared to most games on this list, especially in its language; not surprising considering the game is four hundred years old.

In some ways Piquet plays much closer to an abstract strategy board game. In part this is from the very small deck and large hands. By the time you've exchanged, and each of you has declared his combinations, you have a very good knowledge of what's in the other's hand. (Hence the saying, "There are no secrets in Piquet.") This all makes the last trick-taking phase very focussed: every move counts. There is definitely a lead-opponent-by-the-nose feel to that last phase (reminds me of Zertz). I got so frustrated I experimented with using jokers as Bridgette-style "colons" to give the other guy a chance; and it did breath some life, but also made it more forgiving.

As much as I admire it, I don't find myself wanting to play Piquet as often as cribbage. My wife describes cribbage as "a series of treats", whereas Piquet is "a series of tasks." Cribbage is "perfect", whereas Piquet is "missing something, I know not what." Nonetheless, it fits this geeklist perfectly.
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12. Board Game: SLAM! [Average Rating:6.81 Unranked]
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SLAM! is the best I've played. It's a trick taking game designed by Sid Sackson, and uses a regular deck with the 2s through the 6s removed, or 32 cards total.
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13. Board Game: Liar! [Average Rating:6.53 Overall Rank:9088]
Roger Meertens
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A two-player deduction game that only uses 9 cards.
 
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