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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
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The box has wear on it, but the components are in great condition with only a few plays ever.

Starting Bid $25
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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
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1st Edition - the Game is complete and in very good condition. Includes the mounted map (beautiful design and quality), game cards, manuals, charts and dice - Outer box has wear - 1 corner has tape

Asking $65. USD

Shipping will be an additional $13.60 USPS Priority with Tracking - I combine multiple auction wins for reduced shipping costs

https://boardgamegeek.com/geekmarket/product/1201888
 
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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
Frankie Bones

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The Steel Rain had an eventful mission flying far from home to bomb a torpedo storage facility in St. Nazaire. A total of 28 German fighters took shots at the Steel Rain and she encountered heavy flak in and out of the target zone.

Bombs were off target.

Tail Gunner Carmine Gagliardi was KIA but the Queen made it back to England with some holes, but otherwise safe.

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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
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1st Edition - the Game is complete and in very good condition. Includes the mounted map (beautiful design and quality), game cards, manuals, charts and dice - Outer box has wear - 1 corner has tape

Starting Bid Price: $70. USD

Shipping will be an additional $13.60 USPS Priority with Tracking - I combine multiple auction wins for reduced shipping costs
 
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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
Mikolaj Laczynski
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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
Mike Heine
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Had a thrift minion who hits antique stores call me up and say that he had come across a bunch of old war games at one and wanted to know if I was interested in any. Some of the titles I passed on (Tactics II for $10), but four of them I had him grab for me.

First up was this one, which I already have and love. Condition is excellent and looks to be complete.

$25 from antique store
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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
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1st Edition - the Game is complete and in very good condition. Includes the mounted map (beautiful design and quality), game cards, manuals, charts and dice - Outer box has wear - 1 corner has tape

Asking $65. USD

Shipping will be an additional $13.60 USPS Priority with Tracking - I combine multiple auction wins for reduced shipping costs

https://boardgamegeek.com/geekmarket/product/1201888
 
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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
Jim Fardette
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This game is complete and in very good condition. The box has a couple of creases but the corners aren't split and the contents are all in great shape.

Minimum Bid - $20


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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
Jason Monroe
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Lot W: 3 games for $74 @ flgs auction

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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
Mark Morrise
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Official playtime: 20 minutes.
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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
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After her first, rather successful mission to the St. Omer Airfield (40% bombing efficiency), the Firebug was assigned another airfield target in France: Abbeville.

The Firebug's position in formation was middle, the squadron position was high. Travelling through zones 1 and 2 was uneventful, with no German fighter waves bothering the Firebug.

Things got rougher when the B-17 entered zone 3, the target zone. First, three ME 109s approached. One was driven away by friendly fighter cover. Top and nose guns missed their target, but the starboard cheek gun scored a hit. Unfortunately, the German fighter wasn't destroyed, only damaged, and continued to attack, albeit with less force. Both remaining ME 109s failed to score a hit, and so did the B-17's passing shot from the tail guns.

A second wave, consisting of two FW 190s, an ME 109 and an ME 110, tried to prevent the Firebug from reaching her target. Two of the German fighters were driven off, and the ball gunner managed to destroy a third. The remaining FW 190 missed, and the crew of the Firebug prepared to launch the bombs. As expected, the target was protected by anti-aircraft guns. Flak fire was only light, though, and there were no flak hits. Unfortunately, the bomb run was a failure, despite good weather over the Abbeville Airfield. The Firebug's bombs were off target and missed completely (0% efficiency).

As the Firebug was preparing to leave the target zone to head back to England, two more waves of German fighters arrived. Two of five ME 109s from the first wave were driven off, one taken out by the tail gunner. A ME 109 from 3 o' clock high missed, but the remaining German fighter, in vertical dive, scored a single shell hit that had major consequences: a walking hit left the navigator lightly wounded and the bomb bay doors inoperable, but worst of all, three crewmen were seriously wounded: the radio operator, the ball gunner and the pilot! The ME was driven off by friendly fighter cover before it could launch a successive attack, but the damage had been done!

Thanks to fighter cover, a second wave consisting of two FW 190s was also driven off. The Firebug again made it through zones 2 and 1 without any German attacks. She landed in good weather and the injured crew were taken care of. Pilot, radio operator and ball gunner would eventually make a recovery but they weren't fit to fly any more missions.

After the second mission, 6 out of 10 original crew are fit to continue.

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I had some rules issues this time. In particular, I'm not sure if I fully understand the section on when exactly I can move/replace wounded crew with or without penalty, despite reading it a few times. Could/should I have moved the engineer to the pilot's compartment directly after the pilot was wounded, even before the successive attack of the fighter that caused the wound?

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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
Adam Gastonguay
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During Sunday's coffee time, I decided to take a few flights over Germany.

It seems I was in the middle of a campaign, so I continued the flights of the 'Roman Candle.' It was only flights 3-5, so it was all the easy ones, which lived up their names. Only real damage in all the flights were one blown out engine, one nose gun dropping off into the ocean and one guy shivering but not getting frost bite.

My drops, however, were terrible. 0%, 0% and 20%.

At least everyone survived!
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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
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I sent my B-17 on her third mission yesterday. Yes, the game doesn't have too many decisions to make (though there are definitely some) but I'm hooked by the narrative it creates. I want to see how far the Firebug and her crew can get, and what fate will await them.

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Bomber Name: Firebug
Mission # 3
Target City: Lille
Target Type: Industry
B-17 Position in Formation: Middle
Squadron Position: High

Mission # 3 saw the Firebug leave for her first non-airfield target, an industrial complex in Lille. She quickly crossed zones 1 and 2 without encountering any German resistance. As she entered zone 3 in good weather, a single ME 109 appeared, in vertical dive. Since fighter cover is of no use in that situation, all the crew could do was fire the top turret and radio room guns. Radio operator Ramon Rahini’s skills paid off and, against the odds, he managed to destroy the 109 on his first mission on the Firebug!

The Firebug’s good luck continued: as she approached the target, she encountered no flak. Less lucky, however, was the result of the bomb run: off target, 0% accuracy, for the second time in a row. Bombardier Tom Bombadil might need some extra lessons, despite starting off on a promising 40% bomb run during his first mission.

Having dropped her freight, though not at its intended destination, the Firebug turned around, heading home for England. The Germans, however, weren’t keen on letting her escape so easily. Two waves of fighters attempted to stop her. First came four ME 109s, from 12 High, 3 High, 9 High and 9 Level. Excellent fighter cover took care of all of them, except for the 12 High. Top turret and nose guns fired, but missed. So did the 109.

The second wave was even heavier: Five 190s, from 12 High, 1:30 High, 3 High, 6 High and 9 High. If it hadn’t been for the still excellent fighter cover that managed to drive off the fighters from 3, 6 and 9 High, this might have ended in disaster. It still might, with two fighters left to attack the Firebug. Top turret and nose guns fired on the 12 High, starboard waist on the 1:30 High. Engineer Eric Engber succeeded – the first crew member of the Firebug to have shot down two enemy planes in his career! Surely, this meant that his days were numbered.

The ME 190 from 1:30 High had survived the defensive fire and came in for the attack: 3 shell hits, one of them only superficial. The other two hit the nose and the radio room (remember what I said earlier on, about the engineer’s impending doom?).
Apparently, it was the Firebug’s lucky day – both the nose and radio room hits did only superficial damage. Phew! Fighter cover also prevented the 190 from coming back for a successive attack.

The rest of the journey home was uneventful. No more German fighters, excellent weather in England during landing. Both the Firebug and her crew were safe. For now, at least. There is always a next mission, and good luck doesn’t last forever...
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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
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I'm a bit behind on session reports, but I finally got mission #4 typed up.

Bomber Name: Firebug
Mission # 4
Target City: St. Omer
Target Type: Airfield
B-17 Position in Formation: Middle
Squadron Position: High

Mission # 4 brought the Firebug and her crew back to the roots - another short trip to the St. Omer Airfield. The only on-target bomb run Lt. Tom Bombardil had managed so far had been during his first mission to the town in Northern France. Maybe this was a good omen?

The weather in the target zone was good. A first wave of German fighters apparently had some other business to attend to and passed the Firebug by without attacking. A trio of Me 109s showed up, but were driven off by fighter cover. Another pair of Me 109s came in, but again, fighter cover was a big help and only a single Me 109 at 1:30 High stuck around. Top turret and starboard waist guns missed their target (and I forgot about the tail guns passing shot, like I often do). The Germans' aim wasn't any better, though, and the Me 109 didn't do any damage either.

Flak was a different story, though. Medium flak, with a total of 5 shell hits. Two of them weren't too bad: a superficial hit to the starboard wing and a hit to the port wing flap that had no effect on flap functionality. Another hit to the port wing took the brake out, though. Worst of all, the oxygen supply in the tail section was hit, which caused a fire, and the tail gunner was seriously wounded. The port waist gunner swiftly extinguished the fire and moved the wounded tail gunner to the radio room, which allowed the Firebug to stay in formation, but left the tail guns unmanned (well, at least I didn't have to worry about forgetting passing shots any more).

The bomb run was on target, with 30% accuracy. Not quite as successful as the first mission, but much better than during the trips to Abbeville and Lille!

Then it was time for the Firebug to turn around and head home. Only a single fighter wave, consisting of one FW 190 and three Me109s tried to stop her. Fighter cover drove away the 190 at 12 Low and a 109 at 12 High, which left two 109s, at 10:30 Level and 12 Level. Top turret and nose guns missed, but the port cheek gun scored a hit. Unfortunately, the German fighter wasn't destroyed, but it broke off after the attack. Neither of the two hit, so there were no successive attacks.

Despite bad weather over England and a damaged landing gear, the Firebug landed safely. The tail gunner would recover eventually, but a replacement was needed for the Firebug's next missions.
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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
Kathrin
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I've been intrigued by this classic for quite a while. Found a reasonably priced used copy locally, and finally got around to giving it a try.

Things started out fairly well for the Firebug on her first mission, which would take her to the St. Omer Airfield. Good fighter cover took care of several German fighters on the outward journey, an FW 190 was shot down, and apart from a rudder hit, damage was superficial. German flak was only medium and missed. The Firebug's bombs landed on target, with 40% accuracy. On the way back to England, the Firebug was attacked by only a single wave of German fighters (two fewer than before), but one of the two Me 109s that weren't driven off by friendly fighter cover delivered hits to the nose and waist that left the bombardier lightly and the port waist gunner seriously wounded. The Firebug made it back to England and safely landed at the 8th Air Force Base, but the seriously wounded port waist gunner didn't survive the trip.

I'll need a post-mission debriefing and another run through the rules to see what I may have missed and messed up. B-17: Queen of the Skies is quite outside my usual "diet" in terms of theme and game play and I got a bit lost in all the charts and tables that lead to more charts and tables. I'm pretty sure I forgot to apply a modifier or two, or something like that. Despite being a little overwhelmed by all the sheets of paper, I was able to enjoy the story that the game creates, and I've already started to become attached to the Firebug and her crew. Which, I'm aware, isn't going to end well...
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Board Game: B-17: Queen of the Skies [Average Rating:6.96 Overall Rank:1140]
Frankie Bones

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Flew my fourth mission with the "Pax Fin." Our formation was tasked with the bombing of an airfield in Abbeville, France. While the bombing run was a complete and utter failure, my entire crew returned. Four missions and nobody has been killed but I have lost 2 Starboard Waist Gunners to serious injuries.

Today I encountered heavy flak on my way out of the target zone.

This game is quite addicting. I can't really explain why but I am becoming completely invested in my plane and my crew.

I'm not sure if Target for Today will be the exact same game mechanics but if it does, I definitely look forward to this game with some improved components.

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Frankie Bones

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This was my 5th and final "beginner" mission where fighter cover is always in your favor. Given the failure of our mission yesterday over Abbeville, my squadron was tasked with bombing the same airfield again.

Once again, complete failure with 0% of my bombs striking the target!

Suffered more casualties this time due to some serious flak inbound and outbound.

Lost my Radio Operator to a serious wound, although he did survive. My two Port Gunners were hit, but will be fine.

Despite limited success, the Pax Fin is still flying.

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Frankie Bones

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After a disaster over Rotterdam where I lost my crew, we were assigned a new bomber this morning called the Misty Road. We flew two missions, one over Lille and one over Abbeville and these were as uneventful as missions go in this game.

One seriously wounded bombardier who did recover and minimal damage to the Misty Road saw her return back to base safely after both missions.

The mission over Lille was a success but our bombs were off over Abbeville.

On to mission 11 where it hits the fan.

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It was on my table, but only long enough to photograph for the auction. Maybe I'll play it again before I say goodbye!

(and if you are interested, I will unashamedly plug my auction...)

Closed Wargame Auction - B17, Ambush + More - Ends Tonight!
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I've been intrigued by this classic for quite a while. Found a reasonably priced used copy locally, and finally got around to giving it a try.

Things started out fairly well for the Firebug on her first mission, which would take her to the St. Omer Airfield. Good fighter cover took care of several German fighters on the outward journey, an FW 190 was shot down, and apart from a rudder hit, damage was superficial. German flak was only medium and missed. The Firebug's bombs landed on target, with 40% accuracy. On the way back to England, the Firebug was attacked by only a single wave of German fighters (two fewer than before), but one of the two Me 109s that weren't driven off by friendly fighter cover delivered hits to the nose and waist that left the bombardier lightly and the port waist gunner seriously wounded. The Firebug made it back to England and safely landed at the 8th Air Force Base, but the seriously wounded port waist gunner didn't survive the trip.

I'll need a post-mission debriefing and another run through the rules to see what I may have missed and messed up. B-17: Queen of the Skies is quite outside my usual "diet" in terms of theme and game play and I got a bit lost in all the charts and tables that lead to more charts and tables. I'm pretty sure I forgot to apply a modifier or two, or something like that. Despite being a little overwhelmed by all the sheets of paper, I was able to enjoy the story that the game creates, and I've already started to become attached to the Firebug and her crew. Which, I'm aware, isn't going to end well...
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wow extremely surprised and very much enjoyed opening this from my Secet One.

This has been one that I have been looking for to add as it is also one that I really want to play as well.

Now the clues on the wishlist make sense.

Thank you Secret One
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Poll: The 2017 AH Cup
Third Round Proper
Select One:
  Your Answer   Vote Percent Vote Count
32 B-17: Queen of the Skies (Norwich City)
39.5% 51
45 Kingmaker (Sheffield United)
60.5% 78
Voters 129
This poll is now closed.   129 answers
Poll created by J.L.Robert
Closes: Mon Apr 3, 2017 6:00 am
 
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Bought second hand. The box has seen better days but oddly enough it has two of each board and a set and a half of pieces.
 
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Box is in poor shape, but the game is complete.

Min. = $10
BIN = $50
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Bought second hand. The box has seen better days but oddly enough it has two of each board and a set and a half of pieces.
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