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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Chris Reimer
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West Chester
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Micael Grenier
Canada
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Micael Grenier
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Christian Gienger
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Won that in Essen from Friedemann's Friday blog ending party. Really want to play it, but never got that far. I might just need to read the rules...
 
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Micael Grenier
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
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Very good condition.

Free postage to UK.
 
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Tim Shippert
United States
Richland
Washington
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Setup time: 7:04pm
Splain time: 7:09pm
Start time: 7:28pm
End time: 9:26pm
Discussion time: 9:29pm
Stowage time: 9:31pm


After the now-traditional initial configuration scrum, where everybody either wants to play a game that is incompatible with both the number of gamers on hand and with the time frame of other games under consideration, or they simply refuse to state any kind of preference at all, it somehow came to pass that Andy, Tim, Shawn, Counterlcockwise Scott, and Jerry played Black Friday, probably because it can play five people.


There is no doubt that there is a lot of luck in Black Friday; the whole game comes down to timing when the market (or your stocks, at least) are going to crash, which is something that is only under partial control of the players as a whole and therefore even less control of any particular player. And even if you know which way the market is going, you will often not be able to do anything about it, especially with five players, as too many things will happen before your next turn.

So the trick is to try and make the swings work for you, as much as you can. Either be flexible enough to profit from or respond to whatever happens, or accept the risk in holding when everybody else is selling or the other way around.

In this game, Andy tried the unorthodox strategy of selling some of his initial stocks, in an attempt to raise enough cash to get in on the early, cheap silver market without exhausting his available subsidies. Jerry simply bought silver with his subsidies, while the others tried the obvious tactic of cashing subsidies to buy stock. At the start of the game there aren't any black briefcases in the bag, so stock prices will go up for the first several evaluations, which suggests that buying and holding is the best way to build cash reserves.

But what makes Black Friday so interesting is that cash doesn't actually win you the game - silver does. So if you forgo buying cheap silver to increase your cash which you then use to buy expensive silver...have you really gained anything? It all depends on how the numbers work out.

Early on it seemed like Andy's strategy was working - he had extra subsidies to tap into to buy stocks that looked to be going up (as judged by the number in the market and on the board), while there were several turns where Tim had to struggle to find something reasonable to do that didn't involve selling his soon-to-be-valuable green stocks. Shawn made an intermediate move to cash out one of his stock colors for some working money, while Counterclockwise Scott simply took to passing, hoping to get some money after the next evaluation.

But when we got to level 4 and their were four black briefcases in the bag, we managed to draw two of them on two consecutive evaluations. That dropped some stocks (including green) and stagnated others, which meant those with cash or available subsidies were in a much better position than the long-term buy-and-holders like Tim. We knew the market was likely to go up again, so people were getting back in - but stocks were still relatively high (in the 20s or so) so it was impossible to get a really long position on anything. But cash-poor Tim was also in trouble, as he spent most of the mid-game failing to pay the interest on his subsidies, which eventually forced him to cash out of his singleton colors as well as a couple potentially really valuable oranges, because the levels stopped increasing, no more subsidies were available, and you have to raise money however you can (i.e. selling) if you are in arrears to the government.

Still, the subsidy game probably saved Tim €20, since you only have to make them up once if there is more than one evaluation prior to your next turn in which you couldn't pay. And Tim got lucky and was able to buy a few stray silvers and stocks as the prices turned out just right, holding out until, finally, we drew a ton of green briefcases just before Tim's turn. So Tim was able to take a couple turns selling green, amassing a huge fortune, and buying tons of silver to finish with 15 and an easy win.

Jerry had pivoted from early silver to buy and hold some stock, and was able to make a big 5 gold purchase towards the end to get up to 11 total. Shawn and Counterclockwise Scott made some big silver purchases in the mid game, but they had exhausted their shares and their money and could only sit by idle during the endgame; they both finished with 10 bars of silver and eleven extra Euros. Andy's early lead petered out once the big stock sales come into play, and he wound up with 9 bars.
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Peter Johns
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Houston
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We had the craziest game of this where the market was not crashing to the depths it usually does. It was great to get this to the table again, and wonderful to be surprised by it again.
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Si Barnes
United Kingdom
Halifax
West Yorkshire
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Another Friday!
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Tjitte de Vries
Netherlands
Almere
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Publisher: KOSMOS
Edition: Schwarzer Freitag ‐ German first edition (2010)
Language Dependence: No necessary in-game text
Condition: Like new
Shipping: Free shipping in the Benelux
 
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Dom B.
France
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Vulture funds?

 
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Moe45673
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Toronto
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This is a game that's been unfairly maligned due to a really horrible rulebook. If you don't play it correctly, the game will break; it's designed to end at a certain point and FF tweaked it to perfection that that point comes shortly after the market peaks and starts to plummet.

I love market games where the market feels like another player that you (and everyone else) trying to form an alliance with. However, I last owned this before I got into solo gaming and felt there was a bit of multiplayer solitaire; the interaction is positively Euro as you try to do what helps you the most and, if given a choice, helps the others the least. I like negotiation (such as Wealth of Nations) and a slightly stronger influence over the market (Wealth of Nations, Planet Steam) than this game provides.

The game does provide an abstracted idea of a wider stock market that reacts to your choices, so there is a flow that is out of the players' direct control. That makes this game the perfect candidate for a solo bot so I went out and rebought this on Sunday.

I've played this 2p online at yucata against myself and a few 4p games (against others). I already have an idea for an AI. In my 2p game, I was able to heavily influence the market as both sides, so I am thinking there is a way to develop something interesting.

My first instinct was an AI taking the 4 actions available in a rotating fashion like in the Gallerist. I immediately dismissed that as I really disliked the Gallerist as a solo game. That would be too easy.

I've let it marinate and now have an idea for an intelligent AI with simplified methods of keeping track of its resources that evolves throughout the game. I am not far along enough yet to know if this is more "Player against the board" or "Automa (with a chance to play against more than 1)", but either way the AI will definitely accumulate silver dynamically and you have to accumulate more to beat it.

So yeah. I hope something good comes out of this.

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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Alex Radcliffe BoardGameCo
United States
Charlotte
North Carolina
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Soft Reserve: $17

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Condition: Very Good
 
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Jeff Anhder
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Salem
Utah
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English 1st edition. Box and components in excellent condition.
 
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Good condition.

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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Mat FR
United Kingdom
Oxford
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Nick: English first edition
Publisher: Rio Grande Games
Punched but unplayed.
Will ship to UK only, for free.
 
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Philip Poulton
United Kingdom
Harleston
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Rio Grande version. Game is language independent.

Box and contents in very good condition.

Postage to UK only by My Hermes or Royal Mail (2nd class).
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Andrew Korson
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Kennewick
Washington
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Friday:

Very similar to Thursday, except it started with an 'F'

Games played:
Dream Home N
La Granja: No Siesta E
The Oracle of Delphi NE
Ulm NE
Not Alone NE
Yago Pool N N
 
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
James Keith
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Oakland
California
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Games Played on Friday...
 
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Nicolai Broen Thorning
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So, this is now a thing in Denmark too. Worldwide it seems to be catching on. Anything to have a sale it seems.

Any retailer/ e-tailers that are worth paying attention to?

Does it even make sense for geeky boardgamers like us or is it more attuned to casual gamers?
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Daniel Kim
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Week 3

Nov 24: Yeah, I was one of the people shopping on Thanksgiving day. While checking out at Toys R Us, made a small donation to Toys For Tots.

Nov 25: Out Black Friday shopping again. Made another small donation but this time to the Salvation Army.

Nov 26: This seems to very donation week for me. While shopping at Safeway, they had buy one 10 lbs bag of potatoes, get one free deal. Didn't have a need for 20 lbs of potatoes so donated one bag to the donation bin. Others must've done the same thing considering there were already 3 bags of potatoes.

Nov 27: I have a laminator at home so I friend asked if I could laminate his Zombicide character cards. He brought them over and I laminated them for him. I think I may want to laminate mine as well.

Nov 28: We had our annual HOA meeting 2 weeks ago and discussed making sure we looked out for each other in terms of packages being delivered. A few neighbors (including myself) have had packages stolen in the past and want to prevent it from happening, so we agreed to grab each others' packages and keep them safe if we see them out for more than a couple hours. A neighbor was still out of town from Thanksgiving but they had a package delivered so I'm keeping it in my garage.

Nov 29: Made another small donation towards a company charity event. I think I'm nearly done with my donations for the year.

Nov 30: Purchased an unexpected Christmas gift for an old boss from my old company. I saw this book on the news and I instantly knew I had to buy it for him.
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Lyle Rhodebeck
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Galena
Ohio
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Complete...opened but never played! Excellent to Near Mint condition!

MIN BID - $5.00
 
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Board Game: Black Friday [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:1617]
Rob Duncan
United States
Southfield
Michigan
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SOLD!

Language: English

Condition: Complete and in excellent condition.

SR: $10

BIN: $20

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United States
San Diego
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Chris Miller
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Katy
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$15

Edit - just realized it doesn't have the paper money in the box (we always used chips)

so discount!

$8

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United States
LaVergne
Tennessee
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