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Nagato Fujibayashi

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I only play games solo in order to learn them. I don't see any other reason why to do such a thing. If my gaming group is busy or cannot play for whatever reason(which happens often), I don't play games- I do something else. Games are like sex, you absolutely need a partner to enjoy.
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As to the primary question, it all depends on what you enjoy.
I get more pleasure out of soloing (some) multi-player games
more than playing them with any group I'm likely to find nowadays.

But, I'd get pretty damned bored, if I was just doing the same
couple games over and over. Every now and then, something hooks
me so much that I do it maybe three times - max (the obvious
exception being things like SPQR, with many scenarios, but each
one is about the same as breaking a new game out - and even then,
it's not many game systems that I'll do more than a handful of
scenarios before wanting to put the game on the shelf).
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shinobu wrote:
Games are like sex, you absolutely need a partner to enjoy.

And preferably three or four.
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I'd recommend looking for Solo variants of Descent. Games like that only really work well solo if you can somehow automate one side. In case of the Overlord, I think that's easier than for the Heroes, but I'm sure there must be a way.

I would not recommend just playing the games normal rules solo though. That doesn't sound very entertaining.
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My suggestion would be to invest the time you'd spend on playing multiplayer games solo in the search of gaming groups.

Ask for gaming rounds in game stores, browse gaming forums, look for gaming clubs and games meetups.

You'll get much more enjoyment out of your games once you found the right group to play them.

However if you prefer to play solo I'd recommend to try games which come with solo rules or variants.
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Artaterxes wrote:
I really like Descent: Journeys in the Dark, but nobody plays board games with me. I often play it solo, trying to be both the heroes and the overlord. The problem is that there is obviously a conflict of interest.

It was fun for the first three quests, but the conflict of interest is starting to catch up to me and it's getting a bit boring.

Should I just give up and start playing Mage Knight? I prefer Descent (with real people) to Mage Knight (solo), but the solo Descent experience is starting to wither.

Ever have any experiences like that?


If you only have the choice between the two, I would say alternate them, to get the most out of both. Mage Knight has some different options for solo play, and you can check out the Variants etc. on BGG too.
But my experience is that it's hard to keep up playing a non-solo game as solitaire when you have a good solitaire as an alternative.
Are there any solo rules for Descent here on BGG? Is it on Vassal?



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Artaterxes wrote:
but nobody plays board games with me.


some ways to find gamers:

here is a list of users with a Burnaby, Canada microbadge.

if you really, really want to play multiplayer then look at each users collection to see if they also own descent or if they like similar games. to save a little time you can skip the collections of users that have not logged-in for ages.

there also several British Columbia boardgame guilds. on their guild page you can browse and search all guild members collections to find players who own or want to play a specific game.

you can also make a post requesting gamers on the British Columbia game groups forum here.
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This geeklist probably won't help in this specific case, but it might give you some ideas...
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It depends on if the game feels long during a solo multiplayer play of the game or not. I have zero issue playing Summoner Wars solo as where Castles of Burgundy drags towards the end so I only solo played it until I got the game down. Even though it comes with solo variants, I should try Suburbia as a solo multiplayer game as I find the solo variants lacking.
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It's a waste of time if it's no longer fun. If you can't find enough people to play with regularly, then getting a few solo games might be useful. Many of these can also be played with groups so should see play either way.

There are various geek lists on the large number of great solo games.

Arkham Horror
Lord of the Rings
Yggdrasil
Robinson Crusoe: Adventures on the Cursed Island
Race for the Galaxy: The Gathering Storm

Are just a few game suggestions.
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nickbolton wrote:
It's a waste of time if it's no longer fun. If you can't find enough people to play with regularly, then getting a few solo games might be useful. Many of these can also be played with groups so should see play either way.

There are various geek lists on the large number of great solo games.

Arkham Horror
Lord of the Rings
Yggdrasil
Robinson Crusoe: Adventures on the Cursed Island
Race for the Galaxy: The Gathering Storm

Are just a few game suggestions.


I completely agree with this. I've gotten to the point in my board game collection that I'm trying to cut down on games that are samey. That being said, I do most of my gaming solitaire. With wargames, and most games without hidden info (mostly co-ops and wargames), I'm ok playing solitaire.

I don't think descent plays well with one unless you're using one of the unofficial solitaire variants. Mage Knight might be a better game for you if you plan on playing only solitaire (or any other game that is co-op/solitaire designed).
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While there are games that can be played solo, and even some that are designed to be, it takes a certain type of gamer to enjoy them. No matter how good the game, I'm not going to enjoy a solo game.
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Here's some more:
Friday
Sentinels of the multiverse
Legendary
Castle Ravenloft
Zombicide
Forbidden Island
Pandemic
Flash Point Fire Rescue
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Game's are about fun. It doesn't matter whether you play solo or with friends... if you are having fun its not a waste of time.

One thing I'd recommend if you aren't having fun, but don't want to spend more money... change the rules for the games you have. Rather than playing based on the "Correct" rules... build "Challenges". Try to fight your way through an extremely powerful horde of enemies or limit the strength and equipment of your heroes. Play a silly escort mission where the mage will be "AI-controlled" and tries to melee enemies within range and you need to use the rest of your party to block his movements and keep him alive. Be creative!

Also, take a look in the variants sections on here to find other people's changes. It'll give you an idea of how people mod games and hopefully entertain you for a while longer.

Eventually, the game WILL become boring... but variants will buy you some time.


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I'm primarily a solo gamer. I do play with others, but the only real two big hits in my house are Elder Sign and Small World, all my other games are solo games (until my step-daughter can read), but that being said I buy games for the solo play. I don't try to rig anything for solo I go by actual player count. My step-daughter does "play" these games with me though usually in the role of rolling dice or drawing the cards for me. I'm experimenting with titles like Dust Tactics and the D&D adventure series, but pretty much most of what I buy is 1+ player count. I still have a ton of fun though. I do wish she could read because Chaos in the Old World looks like a good game and its 3+.
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mbsisktb wrote:
I don't try to rig anything for solo I go by actual player count.


Same here - I'm just willing to be all the players.

Grew up an only child, playing the family games this way,
and its served well since.
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shinobu wrote:
Games are like sex, you absolutely need a partner to enjoy.


Nah, going by that analogy solitaire games have real potential since almost everyone masturbates sometimes.
 
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Artaterxes wrote:
I really like Descent: Journeys in the Dark, but nobody plays board games with me. I often play it solo, trying to be both the heroes and the overlord. The problem is that there is obviously a conflict of interest.

It was fun for the first three quests, but the conflict of interest is starting to catch up to me and it's getting a bit boring.

Should I just give up and start playing Mage Knight? I prefer Descent (with real people) to Mage Knight (solo), but the solo Descent experience is starting to wither.

Ever have any experiences like that?


you cant play a competitive games solo unless you have dual or multiple personalities.. get a cooperative games and they are compatible with solo play
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Kiraboshi wrote:
shinobu wrote:
Games are like sex, you absolutely need a partner to enjoy.


Nah, going by that analogy solitaire games have real potential since almost everyone masturbates sometimes.



Well, on one hand I guess it is like what you say. But imagine asking someone immediately after going with a partner(and given that the partner fits his/her taste in every aspect at least a fair bit)if he would prefer this for his future in the sport or only by himself. Imagine asking 1000 people in this manner and you'll get my point.

Most(not all)people I think play alone because they have to, not because they prefer it so. Based on their descriptions and comments at least.

(anyhow let's close it now because I don't want to throw the man's thread to RSP- I just thought the analogy was legit and this is why I used it).
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It sounds like you are exceeding the scope of the game as intended by the designer and you are beginning to experience it's effects. Mage Knight Board Game was designed with solo play in mind so you might have better luck with it. You might need to find another game that you can solo instead.
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dprijadi wrote:
Artaterxes wrote:
I really like Descent: Journeys in the Dark, but nobody plays board games with me. I often play it solo, trying to be both the heroes and the overlord. The problem is that there is obviously a conflict of interest.

It was fun for the first three quests, but the conflict of interest is starting to catch up to me and it's getting a bit boring.

Should I just give up and start playing Mage Knight? I prefer Descent (with real people) to Mage Knight (solo), but the solo Descent experience is starting to wither.

Ever have any experiences like that?


you cant play a competitive games solo unless you have dual or multiple personalities.. get a cooperative games and they are compatible with solo play


Wargamers do it all the time, but it's easier to do with games without hidden information. Or with random unit activation. It's much harder to play both sides on a game like Descent, opposed to something like SPQR.
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dprijadi wrote:


you cant play a competitive games solo unless you have dual or multiple personalities..


I guess much of the wargaming community would be clinically disordered then.

often wrote:

Wargamers do it all the time, but it's easier to do with games without hidden information. Or with random unit activation. It's much harder to play both sides on a game like Descent, opposed to something like SPQR.


Here's the thing though - the same attitude of play extends quite well
to most games without hidden information. 18xx games are a great example
which play very well solo. You just change hats, and focus on the player's
own narrow goals.
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Artaterxes wrote:
I really like Descent: Journeys in the Dark, but nobody plays board games with me. I often play it solo, trying to be both the heroes and the overlord. The problem is that there is obviously a conflict of interest.

It was fun for the first three quests, but the conflict of interest is starting to catch up to me and it's getting a bit boring.

Should I just give up and start playing Mage Knight? I prefer Descent (with real people) to Mage Knight (solo), but the solo Descent experience is starting to wither.

Ever have any experiences like that?


Why not try some games specifically designed to be played by one person? Play a true solitaire game! There are many to choose from these days!

Here's a few true solitaire games:

Field Commander: Alexander
Dawn of the Zeds (Second edition)
Struggle for the Galactic Empire
Thunderbolt Apache Leader
Disaster on Everest

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Kiraboshi wrote:
shinobu wrote:
Games are like sex, you absolutely need a partner to enjoy.


Nah, going by that analogy solitaire games have real potential since almost everyone masturbates sometimes.


I believe the phrase is "Sex is like Euchre, if you've got a good hand, you can go it alone".
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We are also forgetting a couple of my favorite solo titles:

Gears of War: The Board Game
Space Hulk: Death Angel – The Card Game

These along with the aforementioned titles all form a great solo experience for any gamer. There are a lot of great experiences when you can't get others around, you just have to find games that have an AI/game deck system usually co-ops are great for solo play even if you have to reasonably run a few characters at once.
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