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I am going to do another twist on the valley of the seers game.

First of all:

Date: I dont know when would be best to fit this game in. The calendar looks very full. But its a short game (11 people).


Theme: Your visions are perfect. So perfect in fact, that you can automatically find your target on night 0! But can you convince those simple villagers to believe in you? Or will the lies of the evil monsters sway them instead?

Roles:

Team Evil (4 players)

Killers:


1 Werewolf

1 Demon

1 Vampire

These three know each others identities and may PM each other any time. They agree on who to kill during the night.
The village must lynch these three killers to win.

1 Sorcerer

The sorcerer is told the identity of the Werewolf Seer, Demon Seer and Vampire Seer on night 0.

Team Good (7 players)

1 Werewolf Seer: The Werewolf seer is told who the Werewolf is on night 0.

1 Demon Seer: The Demon seer is told who the Demon is on night 0.

1 Vampire Seer: The Vampire seer is told who the Vampire is on night 0.

1 Priest: The priest discovers the identity of dead players.

3 Villagers: The villagers must decide who to trust.


End Conditions

The game ends if either all three killers are lynched (good wins), or if the number of evil players including the sorcerer outnumbers the number of good players (evil wins).


PMs

Only killers may Pm each other.

Lynch Voting

Ties are broken by longest held vote.
All players who do not vote in a given day die. Because it sucks when you dont vote.

Role reveal

Roels are NOT revealed on death.



This game is ALL about role claims. Its about the seers giving their info, evil making claims, and villagers deciding between the two. Two mislynches wins for evil, and a lynch of all three killers wins for good.



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1) Anonymouse
2) Seanp
3) Shugyosha
4) Bluebehir
5) Royalflush
6) Mbs808
7) Latria
8) Threnody
9) Jwandke
10) Jmilum
11) Dalestephenson
 
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Re: Valley of the Perfect Seers Signups!
I assume with the Priest no role reveal on death.

Interesting. I would like to play this.
 
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I'm cutting back a little bit, but I can't pass up a Valley of the Seers game! Sign me up, and mark me as fairly flexible on dates.
 
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Yes, very interesting.

I make it 5 lynches max. 3 killers must be killed in those lynches, so 2 mislynches and if you miss both the first two it is probably over. So the first two lynches will (without a priest reveal) be a seer and his view, unless the priest reveals and says that we caught a wolf first try.

My first impresssion was that it might be rather random: we pick which claim we believe and 50% we are right, 50% we're wrong. But the more I think about it, the more i like it.

Don't have a when as yet, let me check my calendar. But an 11-er game shouldn't be too bad to fit in somewhere.
 
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Its all about being convincing. The evil team has to come up with convincing counterclaims. But they dont know who their seer opponents are (thought the sorcerer does).
 
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Re: Valley of the Perfect Seers Signups!
When do you guys think we should start this?

What lynch time works best for people?
 
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IN.

Start tomorrow. Or today! Or ... when ever you can.
 
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shugyosha wrote:
Yes, very interesting.

I make it 5 lynches max. 3 killers must be killed in those lynches, so 2 mislynches and if you miss both the first two it is probably over. So the first two lynches will (without a priest reveal) be a seer and his view, unless the priest reveals and says that we caught a wolf first try.

My first impresssion was that it might be rather random: we pick which claim we believe and 50% we are right, 50% we're wrong. But the more I think about it, the more i like it.

Don't have a when as yet, let me check my calendar. But an 11-er game shouldn't be too bad to fit in somewhere.


Not quite Shug, but on the right track.

The first two lynches *could* be a wolf and his fake view, which could well be a completely different seer, the priest, or indeed a vanillager.

But everyone will WANT to lynch the person that is their known mortal enemy, and probably declare it.
Thus, the three vanillagers will actually be known day 1. This changes the odds, which means that the evils must pose as vanillagers, which means that the seers can present their views.

Thus, the good seers can ALWAYS present their views, the evil have to make a choice, pose as good vanilla, or counter the claims and pose as seers.
In other words, convince half the good team that you're good.

Hmmm....
The more I think about it, the more I like it. Every good player knows he is telling the truth but can never trust the views of any other, just in case...

So who would YOU vote for!?
 
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Alexfrog wrote:
When do you guys think we should start this?

What lynch time works best for people?


The earlier the better (between 6AM and 4PM BGG). I don't expect to be in the majority though.
 
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Just thinking out loud, you could play this in RL.

Deal everyone their card.
Everyone sleeps.
Werewolf looks up, werewolf seer opens his eyes, sees the wolf, closes his eyes.
Demon, et al.

Then the seers (eyes closed) look up, the sorcerer opens his eyes, sees the seers.

Game on.

Dying to try it.
 
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Re: Valley of the Perfect Seers Signups!
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Alexfrog wrote:
When do you guys think we should start this?

What lynch time works best for people?


The earlier the better (between 6AM and 4PM BGG). I don't expect to be in the majority though.


That's not so good for me, I'm a night person - 6-8PM probably works best for me. But you know, I'll go with whatever the consensus says.
 
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I'll play. Later times work better for me. Heck, I'd go with a Midnight Lynch time... but I doubt there are enough other people who would go for that
 
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Not quite Shug, but on the right track.

The first two lynches *could* be a wolf and his fake view, which could well be a completely different seer, the priest, or indeed a vanillager.

But everyone will WANT to lynch the person that is their known mortal enemy, and probably declare it.
Thus, the three vanillagers will actually be known day 1. This changes the odds, which means that the evils must pose as vanillagers, which means that the seers can present their views.

Thus, the good seers can ALWAYS present their views, the evil have to make a choice, pose as good vanilla, or counter the claims and pose as seers.
In other words, convince half the good team that you're good.

Hmmm....
The more I think about it, the more I like it. Every good player knows he is telling the truth but can never trust the views of any other, just in case...

So who would YOU vote for!?



Exactly! Thats why its so awesome.
 
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I figure we'll just start as soon as we have 11 players ?
 
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We have 5 so far. Who else?
 
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Grah. The last one was just too much fun and I don't have the time.

Therefore, I must create more stress in my life.

I'm so in!
 
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I would definitely sign up, but I don't have the time right now.
 
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Alexfrog wrote:

1 Werewolf Seer: The Werewolf seer is told who the Werewolf is on night 0.

1 Demon Seer: The Demon seer is told who the Werewolf is on night 0.

1 Vampire Seer: The Vampire seer is told who the Werewolf is on night 0.



I presume these last two actually are told who their evil counterpart is?

-MMM
 
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Oh...and I'd like to play, and prefer a late night (EST) deadline - anything 8pm - 2am works for me.

-MMM
 
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I am thinking of scheduling it at a time after a lot of the current ones are over. Like march or something. What do you guys think?
 
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To be honest I haven't got any games scheduled until I mod one (April?) so just send me a PM in case I miss the start thread!

Oh, I mean, with my role. Yeah.
Any time is good. Any lynch time is good (but obviously darkness there daylight here is better for me.)

And. Wooh! Can't. Wait.
 
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I want to play!

So did the roles have typos, or do all of the seers get reported that the Werewolf is their target?
 
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March works for me
 
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Re: Valley of the Perfect Seers Signups!
Threnody wrote:
I want to play!

So did the roles have typos, or do all of the seers get reported that the Werewolf is their target?



Typos. Copy paste errors. Corrected.
 
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i'll join. as i recall, my side always loses in the valley of the seers.

i'll congratulate the other team now. good job, you.
 
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