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Cherith Cutestorrie
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I've run a couple me vs. me games (I totally won!) just to get a good enough feel for flow and to be able to teach my game circle. A couple quick questions.

1) I feel like I read you can't install Ice to an empty remote server...right? What happens to the ice if the Runner bypasses and steals/trashes the remote server's cards? Is it just hanging there awkwardly?

2) On Draco, specifically re: the counters placed when rezzed to pump its strength...if an effect derezzes it, do the counters stick around? And if so, when it's rezzed anew, can the pay to pump trigger again?

Generally speaking as well, I'm still internalizing the majority of the cards (I was able to get everything except Trace Amount in basically two big buys), but I noticed that Bad Publicity doesn't seem to feature real heavily in card abilities. Reread this sentence: I have NOT read/memorized everything yet. Good. Let's continue. Is a BP deck a viable build just yet? I think that'd be loads of fun.
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infocorn wrote:

1) I feel like I read you can't install Ice to an empty remote server...right? What happens to the ice if the Runner bypasses and steals/trashes the remote server's cards? Is it just hanging there awkwardly?


* You CAN install ice to an empty remote server.
* If thy trash the things in a remote serve, the ice stays around.

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2) On Draco, specifically re: the counters placed when rezzed to pump its strength...if an effect derezzes it, do the counters stick around?


Yes they do.

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And if so, when it's rezzed anew, can the pay to pump trigger again?


Yes you can add even more if you want.


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Is a BP deck a viable build just yet? I think that'd be loads of fun.


Bad Publicity is currently just a drawback on a couple Weyland cards.
In the next cycle of expansions, its going to be a theme, and all corps will get cards dealing with it.
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Cherith Cutestorrie
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Cheers. VERY excited now.
 
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infocorn wrote:
...but I noticed that Bad Publicity doesn't seem to feature real heavily in card abilities.


It does feature prominently into the base action of running though. Every run, the bad publicity generate credits which can be used for that run. This is different from typical recurring credits in that you can take advantage of them multiple times in a turn (once for each run you do), and not just once per turn. That makes them really powerful for using icebreakers and Personal Workshop, for instance.
 
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And Bad Publicity is going to play much more of a role for all factions in the upcoming Spin Cycle.
 
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And Bad Publicity is going to play much more of a role for all factions in the upcoming Spin Cycle.


... thus making the banzai Criminal deck even more ridiculous than it already is!
 
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OMG, Bad Publicity is broken.
 
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roborob wrote:
OMG, Bad Publicity is broken.


Yea, it was pretty hilarious when my opponent elected to take a second bad publicity against my Noise Workshop deck. Draw 2 cards, Host on PW, Host on PW, run for two credits into an Ice wall. Or run run run for 6 credits off Personal Workshop.
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So now we've reached the point where we're decrying unspoiled cards as broken?
 
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Ethereality wrote:
So now we've reached the point where we're decrying unspoiled cards as broken?


Prescient bioroids, man!
 
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Ethereality wrote:
So now we've reached the point where we're decrying unspoiled cards as broken?

We reached that point long ago!
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pwnguin wrote:
roborob wrote:
OMG, Bad Publicity is broken.


Yea, it was pretty hilarious when my opponent elected to take a second bad publicity against my Noise Workshop deck. Draw 2 cards, Host on PW, Host on PW, run for two credits into an Ice wall. Or run run run for 6 credits off Personal Workshop.


Care to share a deck list? This seems like a great deck idea.
 
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infocorn wrote:
pwnguin wrote:
roborob wrote:
OMG, Bad Publicity is broken.


Yea, it was pretty hilarious when my opponent elected to take a second bad publicity against my Noise Workshop deck. Draw 2 cards, Host on PW, Host on PW, run for two credits into an Ice wall. Or run run run for 6 credits off Personal Workshop.


Care to share a deck list? This seems like a great deck idea.


Just sounds like a standard Noise Workshop deck, and you'd have to assume you were playing against Weyland.
 
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pwnguin wrote:
roborob wrote:
OMG, Bad Publicity is broken.


Yea, it was pretty hilarious when my opponent elected to take a second bad publicity against my Noise Workshop deck. Draw 2 cards, Host on PW, Host on PW, run for two credits into an Ice wall. Or run run run for 6 credits off Personal Workshop.


Huh? I thought Bad Publicity only gave temporary credits for that run only, much like Stimhack? Or am I missing the point here? I don't use PW often..
 
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foolishfate wrote:
pwnguin wrote:
roborob wrote:
OMG, Bad Publicity is broken.


Yea, it was pretty hilarious when my opponent elected to take a second bad publicity against my Noise Workshop deck. Draw 2 cards, Host on PW, Host on PW, run for two credits into an Ice wall. Or run run run for 6 credits off Personal Workshop.


Huh? I thought Bad Publicity only gave temporary credits for that run only, much like Stimhack? Or am I missing the point here? I don't use PW often..


You can use 1cr to remove a token from Personal Workshop, so you can basically "install" a Femme Fatal by running 3 times if the corp has 3 bad publicity

 
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foolishfate wrote:
pwnguin wrote:
roborob wrote:
OMG, Bad Publicity is broken.


Yea, it was pretty hilarious when my opponent elected to take a second bad publicity against my Noise Workshop deck. Draw 2 cards, Host on PW, Host on PW, run for two credits into an Ice wall. Or run run run for 6 credits off Personal Workshop.


Huh? I thought Bad Publicity only gave temporary credits for that run only, much like Stimhack? Or am I missing the point here? I don't use PW often..


Since paying down things on PW is a paid ability, not an action, it can be done during a run. That means that you could use bad publicity credits to install stuff that is hosted on a personal workshop.

Same deal with Stimhack, its a pretty common thing with noise workshop. Put Femme on workshop, stimhack, use 9 stimhack credits to install femme on a piece of ice mid-run. For example.
 
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Thanks for the replies, there's quite a few powerful cards I've yet to use in my deck, I should look at working PW in soon
 
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Cherith Cutestorrie
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I've seen some of net-deck warehouses but is there a decent archetype blueprint source for "basic noise deck" or similar?
 
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