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I just got the FFG version and haven't had a chance to play it yet. I was wondering what is the purpose of the app? Will it help me in my first game?
 
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Just helps randomize choosing a hideout.
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xpiredsodapop wrote:
Just helps randomize choosing a hideout.


Is it only for some alternate rules or can it be used with the game from the get go? I don't know the rules yet.
 
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LunarSoundDesign wrote:
xpiredsodapop wrote:
Just helps randomize choosing a hideout.


Is it only for some alternate rules or can it be used with the game from the get go? I don't know the rules yet.


It is just used for a variant, where instead of having free choice of his hideout. Jack must randomly choose it.
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Which can be achieved through any number of other methods, including free RNG apps. Only extra thing is the 'difficulty' setting of which hideout it will choose. I wouldn't waste my money.
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It's purpose is balancing the game.
 
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dond80 wrote:
It's purpose is balancing the game.


How
 
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dond80 wrote:
It's purpose is balancing the game.


This is slightly at odds with what you said in the other thread. Its purpose is to make money from something which can be done with any number of free methods of randomly generating a number, if you are of the opninion that the best method is to pick entirely at random.
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I don't have the app, or even an iPhone, but it's my understanding that it lets you choose a 'difficulty' of hideout spot, so I guess it could be seen to balance by letting better players choose harder hideouts and non-gamers choosing easier hideout spots. With so many other ways to give one side or the other an advantage/handicap, including several in the official rules, I think we'll just stick with letting Jack choose wherever he wants... part of the fun, imo.
 
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zenpunk wrote:
it's my understanding that it lets you choose a 'difficulty' of hideout spot, so I guess it could be seen to balance by letting better players choose harder hideouts and non-gamers choosing easier hideout spots.


So if we're using the app to choose a hard location, we're instantly disregarding the easy, medium locations. In essence already narrowing the field down to x locations.
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Destroyder wrote:
dond80 wrote:
It's purpose is balancing the game.


This is slightly at odds with what you said in the other thread. Its purpose is to make money from something which can be done with any number of free methods of randomly generating a number, if you are of the opninion that the best method is to pick entirely at random.


It is not remotely at odds with what I said in the other thread don't pick a fight. Why do you insist on believing that something like this app can only have one purpose? Do you object to for profit business trying to...make profit?
 
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AntandBeeandtheABC wrote:
zenpunk wrote:
it's my understanding that it lets you choose a 'difficulty' of hideout spot, so I guess it could be seen to balance by letting better players choose harder hideouts and non-gamers choosing easier hideout spots.


So if we're using the app to choose a hard location, we're instantly disregarding the easy, medium locations. In essence already narrowing the field down to x locations.


Correct, it's a bad idea. I was against this addition to the app. It should be purely random.
 
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AntandBeeandtheABC wrote:
So if we're using the app to choose a hard location, we're instantly disregarding the easy, medium locations. In essence already narrowing the field down to x locations.

that's assuming you've already used the app dozens of times and can remember where all the easy/medium/difficult points are. As much as I love it, I doubt I'll ever have enough plays of the game to figure the app out.

I'm not really defending the app... well, okay, I guess I am, because I fully support it's right to exist and make money ... more power to em, and kudos for supplying a service some people may want, but no one is forced to buy... but, like I said, I don't and won't use the app just cus I think Jack should have free choice of anywhere. I would, though, love to see the list of points that are considered easy/medium/hard hideouts for jack. I think I'd like to print this out and have it available for Jack when choosing a hideout at the beginning (just for informational purposes, still letting her choose anywhere she wants). If anyone wants to upload/copy/paste the list, much obliged.
 
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zenpunk wrote:
that's assuming you've already used the app dozens of times and can remember where all the easy/medium/difficult points are.


It's rather easy. I just printed out a sheet with the numbers in three categories, easy/medium/hard.

zenpunk wrote:
I think I'd like to print this out and have it available for Jack when choosing a hideout at the beginning (just for informational purposes, still letting her choose anywhere she wants). If anyone wants to upload/copy/paste the list, much obliged.
 
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can you copy it here, or gm it to me?
 
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AntandBeeandtheABC wrote:
zenpunk wrote:
it's my understanding that it lets you choose a 'difficulty' of hideout spot, so I guess it could be seen to balance by letting better players choose harder hideouts and non-gamers choosing easier hideout spots.


So if we're using the app to choose a hard location, we're instantly disregarding the easy, medium locations. In essence already narrowing the field down to x locations.


Sounds like you are right and it would be a bit of a giveaway to the police players but only if they knew how each numbered circle was classed?

Only way would be for Jack to secretly choose easy, medium or hard, to keep the location "group" from the police. It depends what sort of challenge Jack himself wants?

Of course, totally random is another alternative, which has already been mentioned.

I'm not sure about the app, seems a bit pricey for what it is? If it was 99 cents (or 69 pence for me), I'd get it.
 
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