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Michael Redston
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My vote goes to Monolith. Maybe in the future we'll see a card that lets you install something for free if you meet some conditions (such as the ones in Notoriety, but could be completely different). When that day comes, Monolith may be playable. But until that day, Monolith is the only card I can think of that has no use whatsoever.
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hmmmm forceofnature.

I don't think I will ever see that hit the table at all *ever,* where as Monolith *might* in the future
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hmmmm forceofnature.

I don't think I will ever see that hit the table at all *ever,* where as Monolith *might* in the future

This thread is not about the future. Force of Nature has a slight chance to be played in an Anarch deck tight on influence. That deck might suck, but it wouldn't suck as badly as a deck with Monolith.
 
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Sebastian Barth
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My votes go to Aurora on the runner side and TMI on the corp side
 
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Can't believe no-one's mentioned the dreaded Salvage yet... Maybe the fact it has faded so quickly from our minds says it all?
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Salvage.
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ahem, Data Dealer would like to talk to you. On the corp side, I have literally never felt a need for a research station.

EDIT: SALVAGE.
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Stan Adecla
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Force of Nature is not terribad just yet. It's an adjustable code gate breaker for an Anarch. It's the same price as Yog.0. It doesn't require the help that Yog.0 needs to get past things stronger than 3 strength, it only needs cash.

It's the metagame that makes Yog.0 so much better. Tollbooth is really the only Code Gate people talk about. Yog.0's ability to punish the low-range Code Gates people are so wont to play are what makes it good. But once Datasuckers are cleared and if Ice Carver isn't on the table, it's pretty damn hard to get by a 4 or higher sized Code Gate.

You can't just throw money at an ice with Yog.0. If you have the ability to do it constantly or just when you really need it for more targeted running, Force of Nature can really help. Especially if Midori drops a Cell Portal on the table. (Midori x Akitaro sysop party time)

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TMI after a closed accounts is godlike. Either they run and you rez it, or they don't and you have a window. It's all about the NBN combos.
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Guido Gloor
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Net Shield is completely horrible and will never ever be playable!

Oh, wait.

What I mean to say is that because we have no clue what cards will arrive when, and FFG has a track record of introducing cards that combo well with particularly those cards we thought to be rather bad in the past, threads like this one are only useful if nobody in them talks about future use and everybody restricts themselves to whether cards are playable or not right now.
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wedgeex wrote:
Salvage.


Yep, Salvage.
 
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I would like to see the anarch deck that doesn't run with the support needed for Yog. Seeing how Yog is so good it gets splashed into other factions, I cannot imagine a deck where the anarch says "oooh, maybe I will need this to break codegates, and not crypsis."

Monolith might be terrifically hard to use, but at least it is click efficient and unique, which is more then what can be said for Force of Nature.

Salvage might be the worst corp card in the game, but at least it *might* be *okay* in a very specific circumstance: When you are rich, the runner is afraid of tags, and the runner does not run with Yog or Parasite (honestly though, IMO if they parasite your salvage, your salvage did it's job). Salvage is the only way to get multiple tag traces off, which is unique and could be scary. Even if the odds of it being useful are 100 to 1, I would still prefer it in my deck than Force of Nature.

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(Research Station is totally worthless, I can't argue with that)
 
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To all you Monolith advocates: Play it as your console. I dare you. I double dare you. Then post the results. Then use the other cards mentioned here and post the results.
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Salvage.
 
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Yes Monolith is quite terrible. Salvage is quite terrible, as is Data Dealer, Tyrant, etc.

But I think maybe Cerebral Imaging is the worst. For all the others, you can leave it in your hand and then it doesnt hurt you more than a lost draw. But Cerebral Imaging forces its disadvantage upon you.
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kroen wrote:
To all you Monolith advocates: Play it as your console. I dare you. I double dare you. Then post the results. Then use the other cards mentioned here and post the results.

I haven't seen any Monolith "advocates" in this thread yet. Just a bunch of people telling you that Salvage is way worse than Monolith (which it is).
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Case for Salvage being worse than Monolith and even Cerebral Imaging.

People are going to try and make Monolith and Cerebral Imaging work. They're going to try and squeeze juice out of those lemons.

No one has given Salvage even a chance to do something (not seriously, anyway).
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Alexfrog wrote:
Yes Monolith is quite terrible. Salvage is quite terrible, as is Data Dealer, Tyrant, etc.

But I think maybe Cerebral Imaging is the worst. For all the others, you can leave it in your hand and then it doesnt hurt you more than a lost draw. But Cerebral Imaging forces its disadvantage upon you.

I've seen a Noise deck that absolutely DESTROYS using Data Dealer, so it has its place. Cerebral imaging will have its place too in the right deck. Risky cards aren't necessarily bad cards if you mitigate the risk with other cards.
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I'm inclined to think that Cerebral Imaging is nothing but downside, and the worst card, but hold out some fraction of hope for it in some weird context.
 
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Winner

Runner: Inti
Corp: Salvage

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Runner: Net Shield
Corp: Tyrant
 
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Is Burke Bugs better than Salvage because it costs 0 to rez ?
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Pyjam wrote:
Is Burke Bugs better than Salvage because it costs 0 to rez ?

That, and it actually DOES SOMETHING the first time the runner encounters it.

edit: Yes, Amazon Industrial, Priority Req., Beta Test can change that. The card is still way under-powered.
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Sebastian Barth
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I actually managed to trash an early Medium with bugs on R&D or Sneakdoor with bugs on archives once every blue moon. Salvage probably never works ;)
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Burke Bugs is at least Security Subcontractable, and on archives can often be used to snipe sneakdoor. In NBN its also amusing on R&D If the runner does a vamp and doesn't think you'll be able to put up any resistance.
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Lucas Townsend
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I'm a Monolith advocate

Worst Corporation: Salvage
Worst Runner: Force of Nature
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Monolith sucks, but it is not the worst card in the game.

It's a hard choice for me between data Dealer or Salvage. I think I'm going to have to pick Salvage, at least Data Dealer has future potential if we ever see 0 point agendas.
 
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