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David Detwiler
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This is my first miniatures purchase. I bought two base sets for $19.99 each at Target. I am willing to spend up to $100 more for the expansions that will give me the most balanced battles as well as variety. If I can spend less than $100 and still have a respectable set that would be ideal. I would be playing my set against my set and not against the set of another. I will most likely use Coolstuff to make my purchases and it appears that their prices for most of the expansions are $19.99. Also, since I am late to this game have these expansions ever been cheaper in their life cycle through special sales?

Any advice from is greatly appreciated as I want to get the best bang for my buck!

Thanks!
 
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There are two sizes of ships in the expansions - 'small' fighters (like the X-Wings and TIEs you already have) and 'large' ships (the Millennium Falcon and Slave 1).

MSRP on the 'small' ships is $14.95, and 'large' ships at $29.95 - so if you see prices higher than that, you are actually getting gouged by the vendor. (Which most are totally willing to do, as demand for the game has been RIDICULOUS, and supply not keeping up).

At a high level, I'd say from where you are you want at least:
- One TIE Fighter expansion (best two TIE Fighter pilots in the game, as well as the 'swarm tactics' pilot card)
- One X-Wing expansion (well, you need Wedge!)
- One TIE Advanced expansion (Vader is best Imperial pilot, plus this comes with another 'swarm tactics' card and 'squad leader')
- One or two Y-Wing expansion (optional...it's not a super great fighter, but it is iconic and takes a beating pretty well, and the 360-degree-ion turret is interesting)
- One Millennium Falcon (duh, it's the Falcon)
- One Slave I

At retail pricing that, puts you a bit over $100 ($120 at MSRP) - some units are coming in well under that, though, sometimes. I've seen some of the 'small' expansions for (briefly) $9 in spots. Depending on how you do with pricing (DEFINITELY don't buy for over MSRP), you may be able to squeeze a TIE Interceptor or A-Wing in there, and that would complete your Wave 1 and 2 range. (Wave 3 isn't out yet - few months to go, still, on the B-Wing, HWK-290, Imperial Shuttle, and TIE Bomber)
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XanderF has posted pretty much exactly what I would have done. One each of alone expansions, saving the interceptors and A-Wings to last. If you have to lose one of the ships he's recommended, drop the Slave I. TIE Fighters are where the Imperials shine.
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The only real reason to consider the Slave is for the upgrade cards, imo.
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CaptChiz wrote:
The only real reason to consider the Slave is for the upgrade cards, imo.

Absolutely! The Gunner and Stealth Devices are really effective upgrade cards you might want for list-building purposes.

But as a bonus, the Slave I blister also comes with one of the most effective Imperial ships in the game. whistle
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Not gonna lie, even if the Slave-I was 1 agility, it'd still be worth it to include it in *some* lists even with that critical hindrance. With 2 agility, it's fantastic.
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XanderF wrote:

At a high level, I'd say from where you are you want at least:
- One TIE Fighter expansion (best two TIE Fighter pilots in the game, as well as the 'swarm tactics' pilot card)
- One X-Wing expansion (well, you need Wedge!)
- One TIE Advanced expansion (Vader is best Imperial pilot, plus this comes with another 'swarm tactics' card and 'squad leader')
- One or two Y-Wing expansion (optional...it's not a super great fighter, but it is iconic and takes a beating pretty well, and the 360-degree-ion turret is interesting)
- One Millennium Falcon (duh, it's the Falcon)
- One Slave I


I agree with most of this, but If you were forced to choose I would only get 1 y-wing (especially if you plan on getting a HWK-290 down the road) and possibly swap out the TIE Advanced for a TIE Interceptor.
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Assuming you can find the small ship expansions for ~$10 and the large ship expansions for ~$20 (also worth noting is that the secondary marketplaces like here and Ebay are starting to see more and more folks selling their collections, might be worth keeping an eye out for deals there):


TIE Expansion
TIE Advanced Expansion (Vader is quite good, Squad Leader is neat)
TIE Interceptor Expansion (or a second TIE Bomber, if too hard to find at reasonable prices)
TIE Bomber Expansion
X-Wing Expansion
B-Wing Expansion
Millenium Falcon Expansion
Slave 1 Expansion

Should give you plenty of list building flexibility and features the ships that are, in my opinion, the most usable. In all honesty, the A-Wing, Y-Wing, HWK (Moldy Crow), and Imperial Shuttle are all ships that are neat and introduce something novel into the game, but are more difficult and nuanced to use. Sadly, the most compelling case for getting any of those ships is for a single upgrade card from each of them (Push the Limit in the A-Wing, R2 Unit in the Y-Wing, Recon Specialist in the HWK), but I'd recommend just proxying those cards in friendly games.
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Xandar did a good job listing that our for you. A few changes to clean it up.

- One TIE Fighter expansion $15
- One X-Wing expansion $15
- One TIE Advanced or Tie Interceptor expansion $15
- Y-Wing expansion $15
- One Millennium Falcon $20
- One Slave I $20

CoolStuffInc has the Falcon and Slave 1 for $20 each so you can get all of these items for your $100 budget. I also like to order from FunAgain.com and a phone call to their store might have them match pricing from CSI.

Honestly, while Vadar in the Tie Advanced is really good the Interceptor has more useful and varied pilots and would be my preferred choice. I did buy an A-Wing but in retrospect wish I had bought the Y-Wing at the time.
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Thanks for all the feedback! It seems unanimous that I should get

- One X-Wing expansion
- One TIE Fighter expansion
- One Y-Wing expansion
- One Millennium Falcon
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- One TIE Advanced expansion OR TIE Interceptor

and if I can swing it :

- One Slave I

With what I have read, I will get the top four in the above list for sure and wait for more feedback on TIE Advanced expansion vs TIE Interceptor.

Slave I maybe add later...

A-Wing seems to have the least love of the bunch.

I am still open to more advice.
 
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A-wings are great, but flying a single A in a fleet is tough. I think that's why people are leaving it out.

Personally, I prefer flying more small ships to the larger ones. I'd rather take a couple of A-wings or Interceptors to a Slave or Falcon. But it's all about personal preference. If you wind up playing it much, you'll probably build a collection of several of each, just so you have options to try.

My advise is get whatever small ships you can find for $10, and if you get the big ones, try to get them for as close to $20 as you can. Just remember, you should get at least one Tie & X-Wing expansion for the cards, but that a core set provides you best bang for the buck - especially at $20. I was going to grab a third core myself the other day, but my Target still had them at $40.
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The argument I'd make for the TIE Advanced (or Slave I) is that without them...the Empire has no missile carriers. (Yet - obviously, when the TIE Bomber releases in a few months, that will bring missiles and torpedoes and etc to the Empire)

The TIE Interceptor is basically just a 'better, but also more expensive' TIE Fighter - no particular capabilities unique to it vs the Fighter, although it certainly does come with some decent pilots. Although Vader is still better. And the TIE Advanced can carry missiles.

The Slave-I would be (prior to wave 3 - again, not releasing any time 'soon') the only option the Empire has for proton torpedoes or ion cannons, and the only option other than the TIE Advanced for missiles.

And I think (IMHO), the Slave-I is also worth picking up for its upgrade cards. It brings the 'stealth device' to the table (2 cards of it - adds one agility to a ship until that ship gets 'hit' in attack), which Empire forces LOVE given their already-higher agility. At range 3, with stealth, most of the TIEs will be rolling 5 defense dice.
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Get the TIE Advanced. Darth Vader kicks butt.
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I more favor the flavor.. and the added attack die of the Interceptors than the Regular LN Ties. I have 7 Ties. Wish I had a couple Interceptors instead, As for the Slave 1 .. well, I was never a fan of that ship in the film, or outside it. I'm going to hold off on big ships for the Imperials till the Shuttle hits retail, Now to find those Interceptors...

P.S. I would get the slave though... for the upgrade cards, as for me fielding it. Well, I would rather field more fighters personally.
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I bought two core sets just last week as well. Here's what I bought with the first $100 to expand my collection. This was based on what was readily available (and I'll include where I got it).

Spent $40 at MiniatureMarket.com (well roughly $44 after shipping) and got

1 A-Wing
1 TIE Fighter
1 TIE Advanced (Vader is awesome, I haven't even used him yet lol)

Then while checking my local Barnes & Noble (a tip I got here) I found and purchased 1 X-Wing and 1 Y-Wing. So far about $75 spent ($70 if you don't count shipping)

I played the game with a friend, he wasn't sure he'd like it, ended up having a blast. I decided I liked certain ships and wanted more of them, so I went to a local hobby store for an A-Wing I knew they had in stock, and I went back to Barnes & Noble to grab the last Y-Wing there.

That's about $100 spent thus far for me. I'm very happy with what I have, lots of options and flexibility.

Now, I have spent more. CoolStuffInc had TIE Interceptors in stock so I did not hesitate to order 3 when I got the chance. Only ship I want 3 of. Also, just trying to keep my budgeting under control, I'm waiting until next month at which point I plan to get the Falcon, Slave I and a second TIE Advanced.

You and I think alike, in that we want balanced forces with our own dollars spent, ready to go at a moment's notice. I want friends to be able to come and play and not feel obligated to spend money unless they really want to for themselves. With all of the above, I feel I'll have a great collection with tons of options for smaller and larger battles. Just need a larger table.

Also yes, I did not mention Wave 3. I'm not even considering that in the budget yet lol. Probably planning two of the bombers and B-Wings, 1 HWK-290 (2 if something really impresses me about it) and 1 Lambda Shuttle.
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I'm going to dissent here a little bit from popular opinion. Not taking into account that most of the stuff at coolstuff is out of stock (or above MSRP last I looked :-/) I would suggest

No brainers ($20):
1 TIE Fighter
1 X-wing

my picks ($60?):
1 more Core Set
1 Millenium Falcon
1 Slave 1

Swing votes ($20)
another Slave 1
-or-
1 TIE advanced
1 TIE interceptor
-or-
2 Y-Wing

This gives you the materials to make alot of great squads. You can do the 7 TIE swarm (8 is not as fun imo and unnecessary). You can do "Han Shoots First". You can do 4 X-wings. All solid squads.

The swing votes are where you get your choices. Option 1 gets Twin Firespray which plays very differently entirely and still has room to customize (moreso than double YT-1300) plus great upgrade cards. Option 2 Gets you some of the most fun and technically challenging elite pilots including DareVader (Vader +Daredevil +Engine Ugrade) and Turr Phenir (One of my faves, though many prefer Soontir) but may be hard to find because of interceptor. Option 3 I just threw in to be fair to the rebels because I've heard good things about 2x 2y squads. Id really suggest 1 or 2 but i may be biased :-p
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I love Slave I. It is one of my favorite ships. Also you need to get the Tie Advanced. Vader is awesome. I always use him with squad leader.
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I see now as indicated in prior posts that the MSRP is $14.99 for the small ships. I can get them at my local Barnes and Noble for that price. I was there today and saw and X-Wing Expansion, TIE Fighter expansion, TIE Advanced, and TIE Interceptor. There was only one of each at lunch so maybe I need to go back and get them right after work!

Of the small ships listed above the only one in stock now at CSI is TIE fighter for $19.99. The Millenium Falcon was MSRP $29.95 so that was more expensive than CSI's price of $19.99.

In doing price checking I came across NWS online. I have never dealt with them before but they have the small ships for $9.99 and TIE Advanced and TIE Fighter are in stock. Also the Milennium Falcon and Slave I are $17.99, so far the best price I have found for them. Can I get a witness for NWS online?

 
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The Director of Operations for NWS online posts regularly in these forums. I personally haven't ordered from the site, but I will add it to the list of sites I am checking when I start wanting more ships again!
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weevol wrote:
I see now as indicated in prior posts that the MSRP is $14.99 for the small ships. I can get them at my local Barnes and Noble for that price. I was there today and saw and X-Wing Expansion, TIE Fighter expansion, TIE Advanced, and TIE Interceptor. There was only one of each at lunch so maybe I need to go back and get them right after work!

Of the small ships listed above the only one in stock now at CSI is TIE fighter for $19.99. The Millenium Falcon was MSRP $29.95 so that was more expensive than CSI's price of $19.99.

In doing price checking I came across NWS online. I have never dealt with them before but they have the small ships for $9.99 and TIE Advanced and TIE Fighter are in stock. Also the Milennium Falcon and Slave I are $17.99, so far the best price I have found for them. Can I get a witness for NWS online?



I've ordered many a wargame from them and now some X-Wing ships as well. If it's in stock he'll get it out to you quick. There is shipping you'll have to pay for of course but if you order a couple of ships on one order that should save you on shipping costs since it should all go out in one shipment.

I recommend them.
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Whats the Link to NWS website?Anyone ordered to europe?
 
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MuRRe wrote:
Whats the Link to NWS website?Anyone ordered to europe?


Link to the website :
http://yhst-12000246778232.stores.yahoo.net/

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