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Patrick Korner
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In writing up the English translations for the new Essen releases, I was struck by this game:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/22237

Called 'Hart an der Grenze', it's about smuggling stuff through customs.

Witness this old nugget from 1960:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/3705

...which is about smuggling stuff through customs.

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The evidence is in, the choice is yours: guilty or innocent?

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Now if they were smuggling Egyptian Chickens into an Italian Port city travelling via Train then I would consider a guilty verdict.

Looking at the descriptions they seem like different takes on a similar theme. As is, not guilty.
 
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I have Contraband, and it plays a little different from the Hart an der Grenze description, so I'd say different games.
 
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PatK wrote:
In writing up the English translations for the new Essen releases, I was struck by this game:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/22237

Called 'Hart an der Grenze', it's about smuggling stuff through customs.

Witness this old nugget from 1960:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/3705

...which is about smuggling stuff through customs.

---

The evidence is in, the choice is yours: guilty or innocent?

pk


Wow, they do sound similar. Contraband is a great bluffing game, played a ton of it over the years.
 
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I don't care if it's ripped off from somewhere else. It sounds like fun and I want it!

I WANT IT!

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I thought there was no plagiarism in game design, only "inspiration" (at least until someone runs off and gets a patent...)
 
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I'm glad that I'm not the only one that thought this.

 
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The Maverick wrote:
I thought there was no plagiarism in game design, only "inspiration" (at least until someone runs off and gets a patent...)

Well, stealing mechanics may be covered by copyright, but let's not get into that bicker again. Up to the copyright holder to show that thwere was actual plagiarism, as oppsed to parallel evolution anyway, so weak protection. The actual theme I would have thought was outside the scope of IP law, but there is an interesting case regarding The DaVinci Code, which may shake everything up... I really hope the plaintiffs don't win. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4754308.stm
 
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I hope the plaintiffs do win, but that's only because I think dan brown and his book suck @$$.
 
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mrraow wrote:
Well, stealing mechanics may be covered by copyright, but let's not get into that bicker again.


Under American law, there's nothing to bicker about, because it ain't covered.

mrraow wrote:

Up to the copyright holder to show that thwere was actual plagiarism, as oppsed to parallel evolution anyway, so weak protection.


No, this wouldn't apply either - given the time difference between the appearance of the original and the 2nd, parallel evolution would be a joke of a defense. Also, you don't have to prove plagiarism at all, merely infringement. At the trial of George Harrison for pulling ripoff of the Motown-styled "He's So Fine" as "My Sweet Lord", the judge admitted that in his opinion there was no intent on Harrison's part to steal from the original nor evidnence that vouchsafed Harrison had even heard the original...then ruled against Harrison to the tune of several hundred thousand dollars.

 
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When I met Wolfgang Kramer last year, he told me that 6 Nimmt started out as a game about smuggling. The idea was to pass your hot goods onto the other players as they went through Customs. But he couldn't make it work and turned it into a game with numbers. Amigo added the hornochsen to give it some kind of theme.
 
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Makes me want to dig my copy of Smuggle out of the closet and bring it to our Thursday session. I haven't played this one in years.

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