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I have heard a few mentions (really only in passing) of newer English printings of Mage Wars in which the text has changed for some cards. Is this truly the case? (I'm not talking about the recent errata for three cards).

There seems to be no information about this anywhere that I can find. If so, does anybody have a list of cards which have changed?
 
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Wheels2050 wrote:
I have heard a few mentions (really only in passing) of newer English printings of Mage Wars in which the text has changed for some cards. Is this truly the case? (I'm not talking about the recent errata for three cards).

There seems to be no information about this anywhere that I can find. If so, does anybody have a list of cards which have changed?


Battle Fury
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The info is on the mage wars site and here in the rules forum somewhere. I've heard a lot of entitlement-based whinging about getting new versions of these cards but I haven't seen anything definite from the Arcane Wonders boys about printing errata'd versions. Might have missed it though
 
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As far as I know the core spell tome 1+2 cards differ in some cases from the ones in the core set. The FAQ that was published before the release of Forcemaster vs. Warlord had been implemented in the print run for those. Unfortunately some of these cards have been changed/tweaked again in the most recent FAQ (March 2013) which has not been implemented in any print run as far as I know.

There is no list keeping track of the various small changes over the various expansions, its just something I realized when I bought core set and the core set tomes together in this spring and checked the FAQ of that time.

Example Malacoda (creature):
Core set: every living creature in Malacoda's zone suffers one point of direct damage
Core set tome expansion: every other living creature in Malacoda's zone suffers one point of direct damage
Latest FAQ: every living creature in Malacoda's zone suffers one point of direct poison damage. Malacoda has poison immunity.
 
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Fwing wrote:
Wheels2050 wrote:
I have heard a few mentions (really only in passing) of newer English printings of Mage Wars in which the text has changed for some cards. Is this truly the case? (I'm not talking about the recent errata for three cards).

There seems to be no information about this anywhere that I can find. If so, does anybody have a list of cards which have changed?


Battle Fury
Hand of Bim Shalla
Temple of Light

The info is on the mage wars site and here in the rules forum somewhere. I've heard a lot of entitlement-based whinging about getting new versions of these cards but I haven't seen anything definite from the Arcane Wonders boys about printing errata'd versions. Might have missed it though


Read the last sentence of the first paragraph

Shelfwear wrote:
As far as I know the core spell tome 1+2 cards differ in some cases from the ones in the core set. The FAQ that was published before the release of Forcemaster vs. Warlord had been implemented in the print run for those. Unfortunately some of these cards have been changed/tweaked again in the most recent FAQ (March 2013) which has not been implemented in any print run as far as I know.

There is no list keeping track of the various small changes over the various expansions, its just something I realized when I bought core set and the core set tomes together in this spring and checked the FAQ of that time.

Example Malacoda (creature):
Core set: every living creature in Malacoda's zone suffers one point of direct damage
Core set tome expansion: every other living creature in Malacoda's zone suffers one point of direct damage
Latest FAQ: every living creature in Malacoda's zone suffers one point of direct poison damage. Malacoda has poison immunity.


Hmm, OK thanks for the info. Hopefully Arcane Wonders comes out with a list at some point - I'm sure it will cause some people some grief having different card text to their opponents unless there is an official document somewhere detailing the changes.
 
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There used to be a comprehensive document that lists all the changes. It still is available here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/td4af9xtcf4vs09/Mage%20Wars%20Offi...

However, it is no longer comprehensive. The recent three card errata haven't made it to the FAQ/Errata yet:

http://magewars.com/jsite/item/159-tournament-rules-and-erra...

It's all a bit of a mess. Looks like they're upgrading the site and want to have everything sorted out eventually, but right now the situation is not optimal IMHO.
 
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Mage Wars is currently in its 2nd printing in stores. A 3rd printing will be happening sometime in the near future with all associated errata.
 
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Can I assume any changed cards (apart from the recent 3) have just been changed to *clarify* their intent? If so, that doesn't seem like a big deal. In fact, I would encourage such behavior.
 
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Stephen Glenn wrote:
Can I assume any changed cards (apart from the recent 3) have just been changed to *clarify* their intent? If so, that doesn't seem like a big deal. In fact, I would encourage such behavior.

Certainly looks like that to me for the most part, yeah. Exception being that they added the poison damage type, which affected Idol of Pestilence and Malacoda - with the sole net effect (as far as I can tell) that Malacoda is immune to the Idol (well, and some other things, like Rot). There's also the Moonglow Amulet thing, which has gained the Mana subtype.

The more I think of it and edit this post, the more impacts I find
 
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Fwing wrote:
Wheels2050 wrote:
I have heard a few mentions (really only in passing) of newer English printings of Mage Wars in which the text has changed for some cards. Is this truly the case? (I'm not talking about the recent errata for three cards).

There seems to be no information about this anywhere that I can find. If so, does anybody have a list of cards which have changed?


Battle Fury
Hand of Bim Shalla
Temple of Light

The info is on the mage wars site and here in the rules forum somewhere. I've heard a lot of entitlement-based whinging about getting new versions of these cards but I haven't seen anything definite from the Arcane Wonders boys about printing errata'd versions. Might have missed it though


Here is a .pdf with the errata'd cards to print at your leisure.

http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=12797.0

The print 'n play errata'd cards ARE tournament legal and the actual cards will be printed with these changes in a future set or expansion.

Thanks,

Patrick Connor
Communications Director, Arcane Wonders
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pconnor wrote:
The print 'n play errata'd cards ARE tournament legal and the actual cards will be printed with these changes in a future set or expansion.

Thanks,

Patrick Connor
Communications Director, Arcane Wonders


Hey Patrick, would you know when these cards will be reprinted? I am willing to wait for that set before plunging into the game
 
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fargy wrote:
pconnor wrote:
The print 'n play errata'd cards ARE tournament legal and the actual cards will be printed with these changes in a future set or expansion.

Thanks,

Patrick Connor
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Hey Patrick, would you know when these cards will be reprinted? I am willing to wait for that set before plunging into the game

Looks like it'll be late-ish 2014. I wouldn't wait if I were you, the game is too awesome for that
 
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[q="haslo"Looks like it'll be late-ish 2014. I wouldn't wait if I were you, the game is too awesome for that [/q]

Haha! If that's the case, i may never actually get to play this game
 
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The following 10 cards were changed from 1st to 2nd printing:

Battle Fury
Force Push
Idol of Pestilence
Malacoda
Moonglow Amulet
Reverse Attack
Reverse Magic
Tanglevine
Wall of Fire
Wall of Thorns

Chain Lightning and Helm of Fear have errata but still have the old wording even in second printing.

Force Push has the correct second printing wording in the Forcemaster/Warlord expansion.

The second printings of the base game have the Vasel quote on the back, first did not.

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Can anyone tell me if second printings of the core tomes were made and how to tell the difference if so?


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Stephen Glenn wrote:
Can I assume any changed cards (apart from the recent 3) have just been changed to *clarify* their intent? If so, that doesn't seem like a big deal. In fact, I would encourage such behavior.


I agree that the original 12 cards that received errata were just clarifications and/or 'missed' wordings/subtypes.

The most recent 3 cards are of a different variety, being actual functional nerfs.

 
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Vlarg wrote:
Can anyone tell me if second printings of the core tomes were made and how to tell the difference if so?

I'd guess not; I got the core tomes just recently and they all have the first printing wordings. Minor Heal also has less awesome art
 
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