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Barry Figgins
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I'm looking for a good card shuffler. I've been trying for years, but I just can't riffle/bridge. I bought an inexpensive battery-powered one, but one side no longer grabs the cards right...you get what you pay for.

My perfect card shuffler:
- Can handle thick decks, probably the size of 3-4 regular playing card decks.
- Will last for years. At least 5 years of semi-regular use, I'd hope.
- Obviously, doesn't mark/bend the cards or anything.
- Is less than $50. I suppose I could negotiate this, but is a $100 shuffler really better?

Any suggestions here?
 
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I don't have any experience with a good shuffler but I have seen a bad one. The battery operated ones that you see all over all seem to be the same model and it sucks! It doesn't shuffle the cards well and worst of all it actually damages the cards. I've heard there is a good shuffler that comes with a hand crank that works well but I have no experience with it and wouldn't know where to find one. But I'd be interested in what others would recommend.
 
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I would also like to know whether there exists a card shuffler that can handle nonstandard sizes -- from half-size (Ticket to Ride) up to 70x120mm (Blue Moon). My late grandpa had a hand-cranked shuffler but we only ever used it for standard-size cards.
 
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I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but I doubt that you're going to have much luck in your search.

Just to give you some perspective:

http://www.shufflemaster.com/02_eu_products/utility_products...

These are the shufflers used in a lot of poker tables at casinos. They work well sometimes, but malfunction pretty frequently. Also, according to the bottom of that page, they cost $15,000. All that and they only handle single decks of uniform-sized cards. Based on that, I'd be surprised if there was a truly good one out there right now that cost $50 or even $100.

That said, I've taught several people how to shuffle/bridge correctly, so if you know someone who does it well, they could probably help you figure out what you're doing wrong if you wanted to learn. Also, arguably the best shuffle in terms of not exposing cards (http://www.pokerology.com/articles/shuffle/tableriffle.htm) doesn't involve bridging at all and is a bit easier to learn.

I haven't much explored card shufflers though, so I could be wrong. If that's the case, I hope you're able to find the good one out there
 
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Well, with some effort, I think I've got a halfway-decent table riffle down. Now I'm just bending the cards instead of mashing them together. Ah well. Seriously, thanks for the link!
 
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try just "riffeling" the corners together instead of the whole card top (if that makes sense) That is sometimes easier and can usually be done without too much bending. Also just alternate shuffling upside down and right side up to keep the cards from being permanently bent in one direction (easier and less extreme bending than the typical bridge that you see people do after they riffle the cards together). I'd say just grab an old deck of cards and practice for a bit. Or start playing magic...that'll learn you real fast
 
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Here's a link to an earlier thread where people discussed the pro's and con's of various shufflers:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/75525

Sebastian's comparison is particularly helpful.
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thrasymachus wrote:
Or start playing magic...that'll learn you real fast


Nah, lots of Magic players do this weird dealing cards into piles thing so they don't damage their cards by shuffling. I sincerely doubt this method, as applied by the average M:tG player, introduces anywhere near enough chaos into the ordering of the cards.
 
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Bah...real men riffle shuffle their magic cards without card protectors! Of course, some of my favorite decks are getting a little sticky when I shuffle them lately. Pile shuffling seems ok, it just takes to long.
 
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The one I bought: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005BYL1/102...

doesn't handle large cards, but is good for everything else. Solid, manual, and good.
 
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For individuals with a handicap, disability, or arthritis, etc., learning to shuffle is not always an option. Guess I will have to dump a few dollars into the cheap ones on Amazon till somebody comes up with a good one.
 
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In my experience the cheap 4 deck shufflers perform better/last longer than the cheap 2 deck shufflers.
 
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beri wrote:
I'm looking for a good card shuffler. I've been trying for years, but I just can't riffle/bridge. I bought an inexpensive battery-powered one, but one side no longer grabs the cards right...you get what you pay for.

My perfect card shuffler:
- Can handle thick decks, probably the size of 3-4 regular playing card decks.
- Will last for years. At least 5 years of semi-regular use, I'd hope.
- Obviously, doesn't mark/bend the cards or anything.
- Is less than $50. I suppose I could negotiate this, but is a $100 shuffler really better?

Any suggestions here?


I've not found a commercially affordable one as yet. It seems cheaper to train someone from your gaming group to learn to shuffle well.
 
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