my close nit of geek friends, have recently started playing boardgames again after a 10 year break!
We have a background of roleplaying in D&D, AD&D, Merp, Rolemaster, and various dubs into "smaller" rpgs such as sci-fi, western, space etc.
We are a realy competetive bunch, and backstabbing is not unheard of, more cheered on!
We have experience in the following board games
Axis & Allis
Wooden ships & Iron men
Shadows over Camelot (just bought, played 2 times)
We are going to try Game of thrones (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/6472) (someone teach me to do [ url] on this board!)
Our perfect game would have to include all or most of the following:
RPG inspired, e.g. you get to control a character who gains experience in some way
More skill than luck based (about 3/4 skill vs 1/4 luck)
Politics & diplomacy
Not much downtime, e.g. no 100% downtime games (no action when its not your turn)
Have to be able to support more than 5 players (no only 4 player games)
Wargame (axis, shogun, ad. civ is all "wargames"
So in short, I need recomendations for my next purchase, because I don't think Shadows over Camelot are going to be that great for us (although its fun).
I would also like to pose a second question, which probably are answered already:
What games are fun when you are going to drink?
We usually play playstation "light" games when we are drinking because board games takes to much consentration. (Although we did playe shadows over camelot and talisman last time while drunk!)
- Last edited Wed Mar 8, 2006 2:32 pm (Total Number of Edits: 1)
- Posted Wed Mar 8, 2006 1:26 pm
Noone got any recomandations?
For the first question:
In the RPG character development side, check Battlestations.
In the wargame side, check War Of The Ring.
For the second question:
Perhaps Munchkin. Fantasy, humor, card game, relatively lite, a bit RPGish. Some people really like, and some people really don't.
Also perhaps World Of Warcraft: The Boardgame.
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Hey, I am looking for such a game too!
What comes closest is no doubt: TWILIGHT IMPERIUM 3rd EDITION!!
However, what you are looking for is the PERFECT game which does not exist, there will always be an element missing.
But looking something that has almost of all your elements:
TWILIGHT IMPERIUM 3rd Edition. Get It!! Highly recommended!!
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Well, I don't think any game exists that meets all those requirements!
Dune http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/121 has everything you want.
Friedrich http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/12891 has no RPG or trading, but is the best 4-player wargame out there
Struggle of Empires http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/9625 is an epic game of diplomacy, conquest, and shifting alliances.
Conquest of the Empire http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/17710 is a redeveloped version of SoE that also has risk-like game with the same pieces... I've never played it but it sounds like your group might just love it.
I'll warn you that Game of Thrones has no rules at all for the diplomatic aspect of the game, so all that ordering and bidding is just wasting a lot of time; metagame generally determines who wins. All of the above games have rules for who can ally with whom. Also, the ones above take 3-4 hours to play, not 5-8 hours like Twilight Imperium or similar games.
Good Luck, Have Fun!
I would suggest Runebound (roleplaying adventure) and Wizard Kings (fantasy block wargame). They don't fit every criteria but it can handle 5 players. Good luck! You may want to look into Descent also. It's a dungeon crawl where the DM plays as an opponent against the other players. These games may be lacking in the cut throat area.
I just wanted to chime in and suggest that if/when you do play A Game of Thrones you should check out the optional rules that come along with the "Clash of Kings" expansion. Especially for the Westeros Phase (you can actually play the optional Westeros Rules without buying the expansion). In general I think the CoK really adds a lot to the game (Even though its a bit expensive).
I wasnt looking into a game that fit ALL those requirement, merely giving you clues to what we enjoy.
I will look into these games.
We played game of thrones last friday, but I think it was a bit dull, because we didnt get any new forces until turn 5 or 6.
Maybe the expansion helps it.
You might want to also look at some CheapAss games. For example
Kill Dr Lucky http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/257
Give me the Brain http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/176
These are a lot of fun.
Similarly, if you come from an RPG background, you have to try Munchkin. http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/1927
RoboRally is also a fun multiplayer game.
If you are looking to move more into 2 player wargames, try Command and Colors: Ancients (or Memoir 44 if you would prefer WWII).
Hope these help