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Dan Becker
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For those who want to upgrade blocks to three dimensional miniatures, here is another list that gives an example manufacturer and number of packages and costs of converting to miniatures.

I considered the following manufacturers of 15 mm miniatures and came up with the following pluses and minuses for each.
Corvus Belli - http://www.corvusbelli.com
+ Great sculpts
+ Excellent range Carthaginian
- Lacks Republican Romans. Must substitutre imperial romans.
Essex Miniatures - http://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/
+ Excellent range Carthaginian/Numidian/Libyans
+ Excellent range Camillian and Marion Romans
Magister Millitum - http://www.magistermilitum.com/
+ Excellent range Camillan, Polybian, Marian Romans
+ Excellent Carthaginian/Numidian/Spanish range
- Lacks web site photos
Old Glory 15s - http://www.og15s.com
+ Excellent range Republic Romans
+ Excellent range Carthaginian/Spanish/Numidian/Libyan
+ Inexpensive. $14 per pack, 50 infantry per pack.
Donnington Miniatures - http://www.donnington-mins.co.uk/
+ Excellent range Republican Romans
+ Excellent range Carthaginians/Spanish/Numidians
- Barely visible web site photos

I decided upon Old Glory 15 mm figures for the range and the price.

To maintain compatibility to DBA/DBM, Warmaster Ancients, and other miniature games, I thought to base the infantry 2 to 4 figures per block and 2 to 3 cavalry per block. These would be based on a 40 by 20 mm base. The net result is about $300 per army. To me, this is inexpensive considering all the elephants and chariots that must be inclded to equal the CCA block composition. Here are armies and the Old Glory codes and descriptions of figure packs needed.

Roman Troops
TroopB# # Sum Code Description P# Pack$ # Sum$
LI 24 2 48 RR02 Velites 50 $14.00 1 $14.00
Bw 8 3 24 SP07 CretArch/BalSl 50 $14.00 1 $14.00
Ps 4 2 8 SP07 CretArch/BalSl 50 $14.00 0 $0.00
Ax 24 3 72 SP05 CeltIberian Sp 50 $14.00 2 $28.00
Wb 8 3 24 SP04 CeltIberian Sw 50 $14.00 1 $14.00
MI 32 3 96 RR03 Hastati 50 $14.00 2 $28.00
HI 16 4 64 RR05 Triari 50 $14.00 2 $28.00
Art 4 2 8 IR18 IR Ballista 6 $14.00 2 $28.00
LCav 9 2 18 SP10 Spanish Lt Cav 16 $14.00 2 $28.00
MCav 18 3 54 RR14 Allied Leg Cav 16 $14.00 4 $56.00
HCav 3 3 9 PPR6 Roman Hvy Cav 16 $14.00 1 $14.00
HCh 2 1 2 SS10 Successor Char 2 $14.00 1 $14.00
Ele 4 1 4 MC09 Macedon Ele 2 $14.00 2 $28.00
Ldr 3 3 9 RR01 Roman High Cmd 16 $14.00 1 $14.00
159 440 22 308.00

Carthaginian Troops
TroopB# # Sum Code Description P# Pack$ # Sum$
LI 16 3 48 NU04 Numidian Jav 50 $14.00 1 $14.00
Bw 4 3 12 NU03 Num Sling/Arch 50 $14.00 1 $14.00
Ps 12 2 24 NU03 Num Sling/Arch 50 $14.00 0 $0.00
Ax 20 3 60 LY02 Libyan Sp 50 $14.00 2 $28.00
Wb 12 3 36 SP02 Spanish Sw 50 $14.00 1 $14.00
MI 12 3 36 CA03 Citizen Hops 50 $14.00 1 $14.00
HI 16 4 64 CA05 Roman Armor Sp 50 $14.00 2 $28.00
LCav 24 2 48 NU02 Numidian Cav 16 $14.00 2 $28.00
MCav 9 3 27 CA02 Citizen Cav 16 $14.00 2 $28.00
HCav 12 3 36 SP08 Span Med Cav 16 $14.00 3 $42.00
HCh 4 1 4 LY05 Libyan 4H char 2 $14.00 2 $28.00
Ele 6 1 6 CA04 Carthag Ele 2 $14.00 3 $42.00
Ldr 3 1 3 CA01 Carthag Ldr 16 $14.00 1 $14.00
150 404 13 294.00

You comments are welcome.

 
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Paul Dobbins
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Some additional savings are possible by using excess troops bought for one list in the other instead of overbuying in the second list as well. For example, using the excess hastati and triarii from the Roman list (200-170 = 30 extra figures) for the Carthaginian Roman armour spear (needed 64, buy 100) saves you having to buy a second pack of CA05. Similarly, why buy 5 packs of Spanish Cav (80 mix light and heavy), when 4 (=64) will do the job (total needed for both lists: 54). I wouldn't get hung up on the small visual differences in the models, the key to presenting the different types of cav is in the basing. Saving of $28.00 already.
 
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TurkeyWest wrote:
I wouldn't get hung up on the small visual differences in the models, the key to presenting the different types of cav is in the basing. Saving of $28.00 already.


Those are good ideas Paul. Note that I tried to save some with the Bow/Slingers as they come in the same pack. Even if they did not, bows and slingers have the same stats, so you can substitute on miniature for another or just have all of one type.

I agree that the base type is one of the best keys to recognizing the unit. I am painting a 6 mm army right now, and I can barely figure out what those little guys are for. Basing them in sets of 4/6/8 helps you recognize the unit.
 
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Daren, Be sure to post some pictures when you are done. Each miniature scale has its advantages. I think 15 mm has a good compromise of cost versus number of figures on the table. Most 20 and 28 mm lists are geared for 1 figure per block, but 15s let you start forming units that look pretty good (as a few of the CCA photos in the gallery show already).
 
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Hi Dan ,i was also toying with the idea of the 6 mm minis but finally decided on the 10 mm as i thought they would be a nice compromise.Id love to see some photos of your 6 mm minis if youve got them yet ,even if theyre not painted,just to get an idea of exactly how small they actually are.
 
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Dan, per our email conversation, I took a snapshot of your 15mm post and turned it into PDF and posted it on the support site for easy reference. Thanks for your efforts!
 
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