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David Bernier
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Hey all, here's what the A:NR card looks like in a FFG sleeve...



Really don't like the extra lenght and width...those are clearly too big...
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Rhezuss wrote:
Hey all, here's what the A:NR card looks like in a FFG sleeve...

Really don't like the extra lenght and width...those are clearly too big...


Then get smaller sleeves. I like the extra room.
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Eh. I find the width perfect, and the extra length actually makes it easier to un-sleeve the cards (bang the deck upside down to move cards to the top, then pull the bottom down at an angle to slide the card out).
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I'm with you. Used them until storage was becoming an issue. Switched to ultrapro's and have been happy with them.
 
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manydills wrote:
Rhezuss wrote:
Hey all, here's what the A:NR card looks like in a FFG sleeve...

Really don't like the extra lenght and width...those are clearly too big...


Then get smaller sleeves. I like the extra room.


Never bought FFG sleeves before and thought that FFG sleeves would fit perfectly with FFG games, especially when the company tells you the kind of sleeves to buy behind the box.

Maybe i'm too picky...
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In my view, they fit. You just prefer a less roomy sleeve, that's all.
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FFG uses standard sized cards (1.5" x 2.5"), and standard sized sleeves are slightly bigger than that.

I've never seen sleeves that were exactly the same size as the cards. It would make it really difficult to get the card into and out of the sleeve, possibly damaging the card in the process, which would defeat the purpose of the sleeves.
 
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Well i'll keep them anyways and probably get used to it. Love the quality of those sleeves though and the feeling is great.

I'm a bit more used with Mayday sleeves (the 125% thicker ones) and they fit perfectly so that's why I was a bit put off by the FFG ones.

Quality Wise though, they're great.
 
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I use them, but they are big, makes storage quite annoying because they are always just that little bit too big for everything. Currently in the middle of making my own storage dividers and stuff because of it.
 
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I ran into exactly the same issue. I actually just started getting into this game about a week ago and figured that somewhere along the way, this issue had already been identified and addressed so I wasn't going to bring it up. But look--someone else is as dissatisfied with the FFG sleeve fit as I am!

The FFG gray card sleeves are too big for my tastes as well. Squeezing the card from the sides makes the front and back of the sleeve bow out, and it bothered me so much that I sent a ton of these FFG sleeves back to CoolStuff (at my expense) solely for this reason. I had a fair amount of Ultra Pro standard sleeves (66x91mm) sitting around and tried those and those fit MUCH BETTER than the FFG gray pack sleeves.

I was really surprised. I figured since FFG publishes the game and puts out the sleeves, the fit would be close to perfect. Nope. For what it's worth, I've used the FFG green and the FFG yellow sleeves for other games and have always been pleased with them. But the gray sleeves are just not a good fit for the Netrunner cards. The Ultra Pros work great.
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Just a couple of thoughts.

First, do remember that double sleeving is increasingly popular, so having a little extra space in the outer sleeve is important to some people.

Second, FFG's promo cards sometimes have slightly larger dimensions than their regular cards due to the different production methods used. I can only imagine the backlash if FFG's own sleeves could not fit these cards.

For my money, doubled sleeved KMC is the way to go for my regular decks. I have used FFG sleeves for less competitive games (like Blood Bowl), though.
 
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Another fan of Ultra Pro Pro-Mattes, here. Though occasionally, I get envious of the better color contrast that the non-matte faces retain. But I prefer the feel of the Matte faces and the lack of glare.

FFG's sleeves disappoint me, not only because they're bigger than I prefer, but because their art sleeves are printed on a white base, which looks absolutely ugly surrounding all of their games' cards. So you've got these gorgeous art backs, that look ugly when you flip the card face up. *sigh*
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I prefer a tighter fitting sleeve when I'm playing frequently. I do REALLY like the FFG sleeves but the added length can make them harder to shuffle.

On a side note, some avid MtG players who've used them have said they can split easily.
 
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locusshifter wrote:
I prefer a tighter fitting sleeve when I'm playing frequently. I do REALLY like the FFG sleeves but the added length can make them harder to shuffle.

On a side note, some avid MtG players who've used them have said they can split easily.


I have used over 2000 FFG clear sleeves and have never had one split.
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manydills wrote:
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I prefer a tighter fitting sleeve when I'm playing frequently. I do REALLY like the FFG sleeves but the added length can make them harder to shuffle.

On a side note, some avid MtG players who've used them have said they can split easily.


I have used over 2000 FFG clear sleeves and have never had one split.


I've not used quite that many, but I also have had no issues.
 
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I may be in the minority, but that picture makes me think that they are also too big and would annoy me. If I ever get the game I'll get different sleeves.
 
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Ultra Pro Matte fit perfectly, but I find them terrible to shuffle compared to FFG or Dragon Shield sleeves.
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Just bought some Ultra Pro Matte and some Mayday 125% thicker sleeves. I'll test both of them when I get home...but i'll probably ditch the FFG ones.
 
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You have to remember that promos are slightly bigger than regular cards; however you can't play those with clear sleeves anyways, so maybe its a moot point.

I've found the game of thrones sleeves work great through; and if there's extra space its not a big deal with opaque backing.
 
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FFG might use the sleeve size that they do because they have had varying card size in the past. If I show you a pic of my Warhammer: Invasion collection, you can easily tell which cards come from the core set and which ones are from battle packs just based on the dimensions.
 
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FFG sleeves are my first and only sleeve purchase (finally gave in). I'm money concious and didn't want to spend a lot and just wanted them to protect the cards. For me they slide around a LOT when you first get them and I was disappointed in my purchase. I decided to continue to give them a shot and they stopped sliding and have grown on me to the point where I would pay for them again. They work well, I don't feel that they are too big for shuffling/playing with and they ARE really easy to slide around cards.

 
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Delaric wrote:
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FFG's sleeves disappoint me, not only because they're bigger than I prefer, but because their art sleeves are printed on a white base, which looks absolutely ugly surrounding all of their games' cards. So you've got these gorgeous art backs, that look ugly when you flip the card face up. *sigh*


I also think the white backing is ugly, I hate it. Especially on Star Wars art sleeves where the front is black and then you turn it over and it's white, argh.

Do you think if enough of us complain about the white backing, FFG will do something about it? Because I agree it looks awful.
 
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Skylar114 wrote:
Delaric wrote:
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FFG's sleeves disappoint me, not only because they're bigger than I prefer, but because their art sleeves are printed on a white base, which looks absolutely ugly surrounding all of their games' cards. So you've got these gorgeous art backs, that look ugly when you flip the card face up. *sigh*


I also think the white backing is ugly, I hate it. Especially on Star Wars art sleeves where the front is black and then you turn it over and it's white, argh.

Do you think if enough of us complain about the white backing, FFG will do something about it? Because I agree it looks awful.


I think if you find a way to make black backing more cost effective they might. My stab in the dark is that the material begins the same color on both sides, and they start with white so that colors actually show up when printed on the back...
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I have used FFG "gray" sleeves pictured in the OP, Ultra Pro Mattes, and Dragon Shield. The Ultra Pros are the best, for my money, but Dragon Shield are a close second.
 
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