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So I have been reading through the AARs from
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on the play throughs of the Ancient World series games, and I'm itching for good Roman Fall of the Republic game at a similar scale. Anyone have any suggestions? I have Imperium Romanum II in the queue to hit the table, but I couldn't think of any others that cover the era in detail at a scale above tactical, ie I'm not looking for GBOH. I thought this had been discussed before but my BGG search-foo failed me.
 
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Roman Civil War by Joe Miranda may be your thing. Ptolemaic maps!
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xmfcnrx wrote:
Roman Civil War by Joe Miranda may be your thing. Ptolemaic maps!


+1

Awesome series of games, and this one in particular is the coolest since you can use maps from the other three to make World War Zero between Pompey and Caesar.

I highly recommend the optional rules and battleboard from Moves Magazine.
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Julius Caesar is a block game of the Caesar vs. Pompey civil war.

Caesar XL, also by Joseph Miranda, also covers this period.
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chuft wrote:
xmfcnrx wrote:
Roman Civil War by Joe Miranda may be your thing. Ptolemaic maps!

I highly recommend the optional rules and battleboard from Moves Magazine.


Didn't know about the Moves magazine issue. Would you happen to have the issue number??
 
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xmfcnrx wrote:
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Roman Civil War by Joe Miranda may be your thing. Ptolemaic maps!

I highly recommend the optional rules and battleboard from Moves Magazine.


Didn't know about the Moves magazine issue. Would you happen to have the issue number??


But of course. Moves #77, from Oct-Nov 1993. Has optional political tables, more rules, etc. and the battleboard system (based on Trajan's - don't recall the differences offhand). Also has a Pharsalus Battleboard scenario I believe.

Edit: This issue also contains the Expansion rules for adding in the other maps and counters to the Civil War.
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Thanks, went ahead and added the whole series to my list to buy. I'll probably grab the Trajan expansion box from Decision, and round up the other two somewhere.
 
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Thanks, went ahead and added the whole series to my list to buy. I'll probably grab the Trajan expansion box from Decision, and round up the other two somewhere.


Excellent games. I got the expansion box as well. I can't recall if it includes Trajan, since I already had Trajan/Roman Civil War/Caesar in Gallia/Germania.

Germania uses a different, simplified set of rules, including a very significant change to the supply rules. I would not use those rules with any of the other games. I think Caesar in Gallia had the latest and greatest rules for use with the first three games.

I need to get around to fussing with the expansion stuff. I seem to recall it including some cool earlier Republican era stuff like units from the Mithradatic Wars.
 
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I would like to nominate this thread for the "Old School Nerd Award."

(No sarcasm intended. Far from it!)
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FlyingMonkey127 wrote:
Thanks, went ahead and added the whole series to my list to buy. I'll probably grab the Trajan expansion box from Decision, and round up the other two somewhere.


The Trajan 'Expansion' package from DG has all you want as there is no need to get all four magazines. And congratulations for picking up the best ancients gaming system. It plays like what you would read in the histories as it generates quite a realistic narrative as you go along.

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Thanks Captain, I'll pick up #77.
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The Trajan 'Expansion' package from DG has all you want as there is no need to get all four magazines..


The expansion kit only includes 2 of the 4, but the full Trajan box has all 4. Unfortunately, the full box is out of print and seems to be a bit harder to find.
 
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Thanks for the correction. I got the big box, whatever it's called.
 
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Thanks for the correction. I got the big box, whatever it's called.

No, both come in a big box. The difference is that if it's an expansion kit box, not everything is in it, as opposed to the full game box.

FWIW, this is probably my favourite ancients operational system, ahead of Imperium Romanum II.

My experience with the Ancient World series series does not go beyond Rise of the Roman Republic - I was a playtester, and it was not capable of replicating the historical moves. (Though admittedly, the Trajan series can have the same weakness - at least in Caesar in Gallia, Roman armies are unlikely to range all the way across the country the same way that Caesar did.)
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I don't know if it has been published yet, but you might want to look into Alea Iacta Est from Ludifolie Editions (some of their stuff gets resold by GMT).

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Alea Iacta Est is a strategic historical wargame for two players. It narrates the civil wars that tore the late Roman Republic to shreds and paved the way for the establishment of the Principate.

The period covered extends from Caesar’s crossing of the Rubicon with soldiers of the XIII Legion (12 January, 49 B.C.) to Octavianus’ closing of the doors of the Temple of Janus (11 January, 29 B.C.), the act that symbolized the return of peace.
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For something beyond the purely military, you can also consider The Republic of Rome. Multiplayer, and focuses on the political intrigues. Not really historical, but full of period flavoured.
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grognard wrote:
For something beyond the purely military, you can also consider The Republic of Rome. Multiplayer, and focuses on the political intrigues. Not really historical, but full of period flavoured.


I would SO love to use this as a scenario generator for IRII.
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Can these rules be obtained somewhere on the Net ?
 
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grognard wrote:
For something beyond the purely military, you can also consider The Republic of Rome. Multiplayer, and focuses on the political intrigues. Not really historical, but full of period flavoured.
There's also a simplified PNP version of it. Roma Celer
 
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sullafelix wrote:
grognard wrote:
For something beyond the purely military, you can also consider The Republic of Rome. Multiplayer, and focuses on the political intrigues. Not really historical, but full of period flavoured.
There's also a simplified PNP version of it. Roma Celer


But don't forget IRII if you have it - one of the most impressive games ever made. Probably a better game design than a fun type game, but I really like it. Generally you find out if you love it or if you hate it pretty quickly!

 
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I don't really understand the artwork, but this game is awesomely thematic for the Late Republic - the designers must have done their research carefully.
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