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Subject: Atman "strenght equal" rss

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David Homchuck
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If I am correct Atman can only be used on a piece of ice if her strenght is exactly "equal" to the strength of the ice encoutered. Other than using hosted virus counters on Datasucker to lower the ice strength what other programs would be beneficial to use with Atman to make her more useful?
 
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The Shaper Event "Scavenge" can be used to trash and then reinstall her at a different strength, but right now Atman/Datasucker seems to be the most popular use.
 
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if you're using atman, the whole plan is to get 3 installed at 0-2-4 plus datasuckers. other than that, scavenge lets you trash and reinstall an atman, so that you can change what strength it's set at.
 
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Bodasafa wrote:
If I am correct Atman can only be used on a piece of ice if her strenght is exactly "equal" to the strength of the ice encoutered. Other than using hosted virus counters on Datasucker to lower the ice strength what other programs would be beneficial to use with Atman to make her more useful?
Wyrm can also be used, although that gets expensive. (Wyrm is, however, an effective counter to the Corporation's defensive play of icing all three central servers then wiping virus counters.)
 
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ryudoowaru wrote:
(Wyrm is, however, an effective counter to the Corporation's defensive play of icing all three central servers then wiping virus counters.)


I prefer Crypsis, since you can search for it with Djinn, and it's better against Corporate Troubleshooter.
 
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Clone Chip and Self Modifying Code are also useful for the ability to install Atman mid-run and set the strength to whatever works best with the ice you're encountering.
 
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etherial wrote:
ryudoowaru wrote:
(Wyrm is, however, an effective counter to the Corporation's defensive play of icing all three central servers then wiping virus counters.)


I prefer Crypsis, since you can search for it with Djinn, and it's better against Corporate Troubleshooter.


That's because Wyrm isn't really an Icebreaker. It's a giant Datasucker wearing an icebreaker's skin.
 
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Trithne wrote:
That's because Wyrm isn't really an Icebreaker. It's a giant Datasucker wearing an icebreaker's skin.
You're absolutely right, and I hope nobody misinterpreted my comment as saying that Wyrm should be used as an Icebreaker. It's a nice safety valve in case the Corp wipes your Datasuckers and you couldn't otherwise break into a central server to start them up again.
 
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ryudoowaru wrote:
(Wyrm) It's a nice safety valve in case the Corp wipes your Datasuckers and you couldn't otherwise break into a central server to start them up again.


So are...actual Icebreakers. Which are also more useful and less expensive than Wyrm in other ways.
 
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Wyrm is cool with parasites. If you don't use them cripsis+ff better for katman decks.
 
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Alexfrog wrote:
ryudoowaru wrote:
(Wyrm) It's a nice safety valve in case the Corp wipes your Datasuckers and you couldn't otherwise break into a central server to start them up again.
So are...actual Icebreakers. Which are also more useful and less expensive than Wyrm in other ways.
While true, I don't believe "use real Icebreakers" to be a useful answer to the OP's question of "Other than using hosted virus counters on Datasucker to lower the ice strength what other programs would be beneficial to use with Atman to make her more useful?" Because once you bring "actual Icebreakers" into the conversation, Atman becomes considerably less useful.
 
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ryudoowaru wrote:
Alexfrog wrote:
ryudoowaru wrote:
(Wyrm) It's a nice safety valve in case the Corp wipes your Datasuckers and you couldn't otherwise break into a central server to start them up again.
So are...actual Icebreakers. Which are also more useful and less expensive than Wyrm in other ways.
While true, I don't believe "use real Icebreakers" to be a useful answer to the OP's question of "Other than using hosted virus counters on Datasucker to lower the ice strength what other programs would be beneficial to use with Atman to make her more useful?" Because once you bring "actual Icebreakers" into the conversation, Atman becomes considerably less useful.

Other than Yog, you don't really use them until your Atmans are shut out though. Maybe Faerie for early aggression if you can find room for it.
 
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