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Daniel Schulz
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I'm surprised there are no wargames covering the topic of the Iran-Iraq war. M60's vs T72s, Nato weapons vs. Pact, high casualties, trench warfare, and gas attacks, occasional brilliance, and more commonly incompetence. Seems like a subject ripe for a good wargame.

Is there anything out there worth playing that covers this subject?
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Gulf Strike has a scenario covering a month or so of it.

Not worth playing though. It is basically impossible to do anything
with either side.
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calandale wrote:
Gulf Strike has a scenario covering a month or so of it.

Not worth playing though. It is basically impossible to do anything
with either side.


Agree - it felt very World War 1ish in that neither side could really exert any force
 
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Ignorant Armies: Iran-Iraq War is pretty good.
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Ignorant Armies: Iran-Iraq War. It has a decent reputation.
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One potential treatment of the conflict would be a concept similar to Twilight Struggle with a heavy emphasis on political, diplomatic, and economic elements.

The first Iraqi offensive might make an interesting operational-level game with a heavy load of command problems for both players.
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Firepower had half a dozen scenarios from the Iran-Iraq war published in the General, Volume 26, Issue #3. The name of the article was "A Flame in the Gulf" and it was written by James P. Werbaneth.
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horrido wrote:
I'm surprised there are no wargames covering the topic of the Iran-Iraq war. M60's vs T72s, Nato weapons vs. Pact, high casualties, trench warfare, and gas attacks, occasional brilliance, and more commonly incompetence. Seems like a subject ripe for a good wargame.

Is there anything out there worth playing that covers this subject?


Not surprising that there is a handful of dedicated to this war. While it has all the cool factors for making a nice gameable war, it misses the mark because:

1) doesn't have 'Muricans
2) has two sides that folks don't really care about
3) An 8 year war with barely any worthy objectives or maneuver

While the opening and latter stages of the war did have nice mechanized actions, the overall game is like a WWI game. Do you just simulate the nice juicy opening parts with a shorter time per turn, or simulate the whole war which is months per turn to represent the long periods of inactivity?

This war is also similar to the Indo-Pakistani wars. There was plenty of armor vs. armor fights with modern equipment in that but barely any games or interest in those.
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GDW's The Sands of War contained a number of Iran-Iraq War scenarios.
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Douaumont wrote:


My favorite quote on the Iran-Iraq War comes from Henry Kissinger: "The only bad thing about the Iran-Iraq War is that someday it has to end."



I thought the quote was "It's a pity they can't both lose." Maybe that was someone else.
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