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Hey all,

Just wanted to pass this forward...I'm sure many of you already know this but I just learned about it this past year, so I'm sure it'll prove usefull to at least a couple gamers!

For those of us who ship games, the USPS has a large Priority box specifically made for board games! (It even has a little picture of game pieces on the front!) It ships for the same large box cost of $16.85.

I've been able to fit two normal size games (i.e. most Eurogames) or perhaps one larger Ameristyle game...most newly published games will fit two to a box...or you could fit a crap load of little filler games!

These boxes are not available at the post office, you have to order them...which is free!

They come 25 to a pack, and you can order 1-20 packs.

https://store.usps.com/store/browse/productDetailSingleSku.j...




Hope this helps!
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Nice.

A little spendy on the price, but I know finding a box for the longer games can be a pain.
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I"ve seen that little games icon on their boxes before and thought if we (BGG) were the reason with all our trading. I know I've walked into a post office with bare games in my hands many times. Why the heck else would they pick boardgames?
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asgelb wrote:
These boxes are not available at the post office, you have to order them...

Why is this, I wonder?
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Willward wrote:
asgelb wrote:
These boxes are not available at the post office, you have to order them...

Why is this, I wonder?


Your USPS person delivers to you. May be a storage issue??
 
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sniderman89 wrote:
I"ve seen that little games icon on their boxes before and thought if we (BGG) were the reason with all our trading. I know I've walked into a post office with bare games in my hands many times. Why the heck else would they pick boardgames?

No, this website's population is tiny and doesn't make a dent in the postal service.

Look at the box's shape, is it meant to fit Dominion or Twilight Struggle? It's meant for Grandma to send Monopoly or Sorry to her grandkids.
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Willward wrote:
asgelb wrote:
These boxes are not available at the post office, you have to order them...

Why is this, I wonder?


It depends on the post office. I've been in a few in my area where they are available with the other large flat rate boxes. Sometimes if you ask they have stuff behind the counter too.
 
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I returned two packs of these to my local post office, so if you use the same one they will have some
 
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Thumbs up!

I save the boxes from my Amazon shipments of board games.

I'm down to two boxes so I may need to buy some more games soon. whistle
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TouchMySusu wrote:
Thumbs up!

I save the boxes from my Amazon shipments of board games.

I'm down to two boxes so I may need to buy some more games soon. whistle


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jumbit wrote:
sniderman89 wrote:
I"ve seen that little games icon on their boxes before and thought if we (BGG) were the reason with all our trading. I know I've walked into a post office with bare games in my hands many times. Why the heck else would they pick boardgames?

No, this website's population is tiny and doesn't make a dent in the postal service.


bgg users did have a hand in the creation of the board game flat rate box.
the story is in this thread:
Upcoming Priority Flat Rate Board Game Shipping Box
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I like advertising the contents of packages on the outside of the box. I have always thought that was a good thing when sending private, expensive material with the postal service.

Board games have really needed their version of the "adult magazine black bag" for some time now.

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poeppaul wrote:
jumbit wrote:
sniderman89 wrote:
I"ve seen that little games icon on their boxes before and thought if we (BGG) were the reason with all our trading. I know I've walked into a post office with bare games in my hands many times. Why the heck else would they pick boardgames?

No, this website's population is tiny and doesn't make a dent in the postal service.


bgg users did have a hand in the creation of the board game flat rate box.
the story is in this thread:
Upcoming Priority Flat Rate Board Game Shipping Box


This was the thread I was going to go find.
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poeppaul wrote:
jumbit wrote:
sniderman89 wrote:
I"ve seen that little games icon on their boxes before and thought if we (BGG) were the reason with all our trading. I know I've walked into a post office with bare games in my hands many times. Why the heck else would they pick boardgames?

No, this website's population is tiny and doesn't make a dent in the postal service.


bgg users did have a hand in the creation of the board game flat rate box.
the story is in this thread:
Upcoming Priority Flat Rate Board Game Shipping Box

This website's users still don't make a dent in the postal service's business. Just look at all the categories on ebay and imagine how many packages get sent daily. Then look at board games - it's a subset of Toys & Games. Then think of how few of the board games sold on ebay are BGG type board games.

If anything, having a special box for Monopoly-sized board games is a waste of the Postal Service's resources.

I suppose I shouldn't complain, the last board game I received was simply wrapped in white paper with no packaging.
 
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First, thanks for ensuring everyone knows about this...

I helped bring this to fruition with my friend; he happens to be the USPS VP in charge of most of the package shipping here internally within the US. I helped figure out the dimensions so it would fit two typical vintage 70s long box games as well as holding a game sized like Tikal. It needed to be essentially the same in volume as the large flat rate box at the time. It took about 2 trials to get it right. I gave him measurements, the I'd try a couple of games in the first protoype, provided revised measurements tweaks, and we did that one more time before going final.

For jumbit, I mostly did it to test the hypothesis that there was enough business to support having something better for us gamers to ship in. Of course I helped him identify other things that could be shipped in this box as well. While you may feel the markets is a little narrow, there is quite a bit shipped in boxes this size and I am certain much of them are games (think of all the eBay and Amazon sales). I think he said a million flew off the shelves as soon as they became available (which was post-Christmas I think). I'll see if I can get stats.

I'm still working through my original 2 boxes, which doesn't have the cool gaming logo on it, just the standard flat rate box notation.

So never say the Govt doesn't think of us gamers ;-)

Cheers,
Paul

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jumbit wrote:
If anything, having a special box for Monopoly-sized board games is a waste of the Postal Service's resources.


I work for USPS and in my opinion if the organization is going to turn around it is going to be through package delivery and it is going to be by responding to customer demands.

First class mail, periodical rate mail and business mail volume are all dropping off and are unsustainable. And raising prices isn't an easy solution either since there are so many ways of transferring information these days.

I think USPS is going to survive or die by its ability to increase market share in the package business. And we can't afford to take any customers for granted, or to ignore them. Including board gamers.
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jumbit wrote:

No, this website's population is tiny and doesn't make a dent in the postal service.

Look at the box's shape, is it meant to fit Dominion or Twilight Struggle? It's meant for Grandma to send Monopoly or Sorry to her grandkids.


Tell me again how the world works, oh wise owl.
 
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frumpish wrote:
jumbit wrote:
If anything, having a special box for Monopoly-sized board games is a waste of the Postal Service's resources.


I work for USPS and in my opinion if the organization is going to turn around it is going to be through package delivery and it is going to be by responding to customer demands.

First class mail, periodical rate mail and business mail volume are all dropping off and are unsustainable. And raising prices isn't an easy solution either since there are so many ways of transferring information these days.

I think USPS is going to survive or die by its ability to increase market share in the package business. And we can't afford to take any customers for granted, or to ignore them. Including board gamers.


I agree with you (at least abstractly as I am not in the business, but here about some parts via my friend). You aren't going to win business by slowly reducing factors needed to make the business attractive to the consumer, but improving the value of the services. Keeping track of how the market changes is incredibly important. Package distribution won't go away anytime soon (at least not until transporters come along) and some information passed in envelopes won't go away anytime in the near future.

I personally hope USPS never goes away as it would free FedEx, UPS, etc. to charge what they like to the rural customers or perhaps drop service to those locations all together. It wouldn't impact me as much (since I live in a suburban location), but I like to think that it is a fairness issue.
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Service to rural America is where USPS can't be touched (mostly because it is a loss leader).
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