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Glenn Avery
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Trying desperately do get local friends and geeks into Netrunner because I really enjoy the depth and potential of the game. I am having a bit o an issue teaching it though. I understand the concepts, mechanics and play but have bad decks to teach with.

Help please! Can a reasonable deck be constructed for each faction (as in 7 different decks) from the contents of the core set and all current data packs? They don't have to be anything special or even tournament quality butt hey should be straightforward and functional. Too many times I have run into teaching situations where the other player is way down on economy for example. In fact having sufficient economy cards to spread across the decks seems to be the major culprit. Thoughts? Builds? Advice?
 
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I know there is a geeklist out there that has decks for this same purpose....

I just stick to the core decks when teaching the game, and use what was popular and seemed intuitive to play at the time (Gabe and HB). IMO, for simply teaching the game, I don't think you want to get into anything that messes around with the base rules too much: SMC's turning icebreakers mid-run, Howler, Oversight AI and "free" ICE, etc.
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It may be that the problem is that he wants to teach multiple people at a time, so he needs more decks ready at the same time.

@Glenn: is my guess for your reasons right? One or two core sets?
 
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gsquirrelgo wrote:
Can a reasonable deck be constructed for each faction (as in 7 different decks) from the contents of the core set and all current data packs?
Yes. In fact, I'll do you one better and say that you don't even need the data packs!

No, the Core Set decks are not fantastic. They have strengths and weaknesses... which is exactly what you want in teaching decks. You want new players to learn where each faction is strong, and where each faction needs bolstering. You want new players to start looking at cards from other factions and say "Why the heck would I put Data Dealer in my Criminal Deck when they don't have a Code Gate breaker, and hey look at this shiny shiny Gordian Blade?" But most of all, you want new players to start thinking about how they would build decks, because they will build decks that work well with their particular playing style.
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@hsiale I have one core set and a copy of each data pack and yes, I am trying to teach multiple people at once. Furthermore having a deck for each faction, even just a functional one gives new players the option to choose a flavor they might enjoy. For instance running an HB fast advance is a completely different feel than an NBN with tag n bag splashed in from Weyland (which is super fun btw). I just wanna have options on hand for different types of card gamers so I can put the best foot of the game forward.
 
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ryudoowaru wrote:
gsquirrelgo wrote:
Can a reasonable deck be constructed for each faction (as in 7 different decks) from the contents of the core set and all current data packs?
Yes. In fact, I'll do you one better and say that you don't even need the data packs!

No, the Core Set decks are not fantastic. They have strengths and weaknesses... which is exactly what you want in teaching decks. You want new players to learn where each faction is strong, and where each faction needs bolstering. You want new players to start looking at cards from other factions and say "Why the heck would I put Data Dealer in my Criminal Deck when they don't have a Code Gate breaker, and hey look at this shiny shiny Gordian Blade?" But most of all, you want new players to start thinking about how they would build decks, because they will build decks that work well with their particular playing style.


This. This is spot on for me.

And you know (a little off-topic), Data Dealer takes a lot of flak, but I think it could have uses (controversy!). Not enough to put it in my deck, but I see it as a little like a Criminal Stimhack - a Crimhack, if you will.

Assuming you have an Agenda scored and you see the Corp trying to squeeze another through in a window where you are poor, you can Data-dealer your scored agenda away and steal that one out from under the Corp when they thought it was safe.

Are you closer to victory? Probably not (number of agenda points pawned/scored is obviously of interest here). But more importantly, you've prevented the Corp scoring what they THOUGHT was a safe agenda.

Now I'm not saying there aren't other options for doing so, but the only other big cash injection like this I can think of IS stimhack, and not everyone wants to deal with Brain Damage either. So whilst I don't run Data Dealer, I think if I ever make a Criminal deck I might try it out just for kicks
 
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gsquirrelgo wrote:
Can a reasonable deck be constructed for each faction (as in 7 different decks) from the contents of the core set and all current data packs?

You can build decks that are reasonably balanced against each other, which should be sufficient for your purposes. The biggest pain is probably going to be dividing only 3 Hedge Funds among four corp decks, especially since BABW Weyland is so hungry for them.
 
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These are the corps. I may make runners later. Not sure about balance, but those four definitely have different flavour. I hope I didn't mess up and cards don't repeat too often.

http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/EWZhKzeP9WnSq47Gh
http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/pfmaPe4YbxDEWSv7Z
http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/LbyjqQemA9ghp3jWb
http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/FDZ5dwxira2Aw5PzM
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oh my gosh thank you so much, my thursday night just got a bunch more fun.
 
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Runners were definitely harder to do (especially as I wanted 4 to go in pair with 4 corps), with the biggest problem being Scorched Earth protection. It might happen that some of those have no chance against a decently played NBN from my previous post.

Check the corps as well, I made a few changes (mostly added some economy to Jinteki).

http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/xHyicxPdvZBBPLKx3
http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/y49jB6MKb8qSA7qh6
http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/scmzsFh4M4fxbjiLS
http://netrunner.meteor.com/decks/PnHPFsJfeMqauCffh
 
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