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Was not able to post the link in the vid-sec, but this is the link:

http://youtu.be/WOVEy1tC7nk

Anybody seen this?
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Cool. Thanks.
 
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[ youtube=WOVEy1tC7nk ] (minus the spaces) let's you embed YouTube links.

That was really interesting!

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Fun to watch.
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Gives a good time perspective to the war. It changed my knowledge of the war. Thanks, very instructive indeed.
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That was truly insightful and fascinating.

Thanks for posting....
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This is.. Impressive! Thanks for posting!
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For those of you looking at the embedded video above, I recommend checking out the actual YouTube channel. This person's got lots of such animations for many different conflicts.
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Rather sombering video.
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Very cool!
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And all that time the Swiss didn't give a shit.
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Wow...never realized there was such inactivity on the Eastern Front. Six months at a time, nothing moves.

Germany itself appeared to be free of foreign armies all the way up until January 1945. Remarkable.
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That was cool....if they taught intro to history classes like that in school I bet more people would pay attention.....lol
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Tott wrote:


That was cool....if they taught intro to history classes like that in school I bet more people would pay attention.....lol


Excellent point. Get them hooked, then give them the details.
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Shauneroo wrote:
And all that time the Swiss didn't give a shit.



I watched this with my wife last night and we made a similar comment - great minds and all that...

Probably shouldn't put this on here (and no offence intended...) but we also commented on how much quicker it could've all ended if, ahem, the Americans had decided to get involved a little sooner.... shake
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thechangingman wrote:
Shauneroo wrote:
And all that time the Swiss didn't give a shit.



I watched this with my wife last night and we made a similar comment - great minds and all that...

Probably shouldn't put this on here (and no offence intended...) but we also commented on how much quicker it could've all ended if, ahem, the Americans had decided to get involved a little sooner.... shake


If it was 70 years ago it isn't RSP. It's just history. It's only while history is being made that social convention doesn't allow you to discuss it. shake
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Here's WWII way under 7 minutes

http://www.collegehumor.com/article/5971108/omg-wwii-on-face...

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Very fun video. My three thoughts were:

1. Wow, the Axis controlled lots of territory until close to the very end.

2. As someone else said, it's amazing how long fronts were basically static. Seems like Feb-July of 1942 nothing happened in Russia, and that's just one example.

3. Hard to even SEE the Battle of the Bulge.
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Mesmerizing.
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stephenhope wrote:
2. As someone else said, it's amazing how long fronts were basically static. Seems like Feb-July of 1942 nothing happened in Russia, and that's just one example.


Between Jan 42 and March 43, well over 2 million Soviets were lost in the Rzhev salient. The map merely shows the Germans retiring from it, in Operation Buffalo.

Its interesting to see how long the Russians were held in the same part of the line in 1944.

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3. Hard to even SEE the Battle of the Bulge.


there was hardly anyone there.
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thechangingman wrote:
Probably shouldn't put this on here (and no offence intended...) but we also commented on how much quicker it could've all ended if, ahem, the Americans had decided to get involved a little sooner.... shake

Even if we ignore the fact that we got involved as quickly as FDR could make it happen (Lend-Lease, destroyers for bases, etc.), let's say for the sake of argument that we join you Brits declaring war in 1939, how exactly does that play out? We had almost no army to speak of, and even if we had, until the Germans drive themselves into the Russian mud, there's not much to be done about their continental dominance. An early landing, even an ahistorically powerful one, would simply have been cut to pieces.

Now, if the Russians had acted earlier by joining the Allies, that could have ended the war sooner. Or if the French hadn't completely botched their defense in 1940. Or if the Brits and French had actually come to Poland's aid while it was still fighting -- those scenarios would be more likely to shorten the war than an earlier (and likely ineffectual) US intervention.

And the Swiss weren't 'not giving a shit', they were preparing their defenses and waiting for the Germans to invade (which we now know Hitler likely intended to do once Allies had been taken care of):

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While neutral, Switzerland was prepared to fight a Nazi invasion to the end. The celebrated Swiss Gen. Henri Guisan developed the strategy known as defense du reduit--an initial opposition followed by a retreat into the Alps, where a relentless war to the death would be waged. Most Swiss strongly opposed Nazism. Death sentences were issued for fifth-column activities, and proclamations against anti-Semitism were passed at various official levels. There was no Holocaust on Swiss soil, something that can not be said for France, the Netherlands, Poland or most of Europe.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/nazis/readings...

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cherryfunk wrote:
thechangingman wrote:
Probably shouldn't put this on here (and no offence intended...) but we also commented on how much quicker it could've all ended if, ahem, the Americans had decided to get involved a little sooner.... :shake:

Even if we ignore the fact that we got involved as quickly as FDR could make it happen (Lend-Lease, destroyers for bases, etc.), let's say for the sake of argument that we join you Brits declaring war in 1939, how exactly does that play out? We had almost no army to speak of, and even if we had, until the Germans drive themselves into the Russian mud, there's not much to be done about their continental dominance. An early landing, even an ahistorically powerful one, would simply have been cut to pieces.

Now, if the Russians had acted earlier by joining the Allies, that could have ended the war sooner. Or if the French hadn't completely botched their defense in 1940. Or if the Brits and French had actually come to Poland's aid while it was still fighting -- those scenarios would be more likely to shorten the war than an earlier (and likely ineffectual) US intervention.

And the Swiss weren't 'not giving a shit', they were preparing their defenses and waiting for the Germans to invade (which we now know Hitler likely intended to do once Allies had been taken care of):

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While neutral, Switzerland was prepared to fight a Nazi invasion to the end. The celebrated Swiss Gen. Henri Guisan developed the strategy known as defense du reduit--an initial opposition followed by a retreat into the Alps, where a relentless war to the death would be waged. Most Swiss strongly opposed Nazism. Death sentences were issued for fifth-column activities, and proclamations against anti-Semitism were passed at various official levels. There was no Holocaust on Swiss soil, something that can not be said for France, the Netherlands, Poland or most of Europe.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/nazis/readings...

Correction: The Swiss were making a ton of money during World War II. Why do you think all that so-called "German" Gold (actually much gold stolen from Jewish people) was in Switzerland? So the German's could buy stuff from American Companies. For example, the German's never captured any sources of rubber during the war. So where did they get their rubber? Synthetic rubber? Not so quick. A tire needs 25% natural rubber to have enough flexibility to to function and rubber only grows in southeast Asia and Brazil. From American companies selling rubber, aviation fuel, petroleum, even, ball bearings etc. through neutral Spain, Sweden and Vichy France with "trading with the enemy" licenses issued by the US Government! Ever wonder what the sub-plot to the movie Casa Blanca was all about?

German imports of synthetic and natural rubber during World War II
year metric tons % natural
1940 68,000 46%
1941 77,000 15%
1942 97,500 4%


source:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...


see also: Trading With the Enemy: An Expose of the Nazi-American Money Plot, 1933-1949 Hardcover – December 1, 1982 by Charles Higham
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We could have won the war a lot quicker if we didn't sell the German Army so much stuff. Like Ford Trucks for example. The truth is American companies sold our vehicles to the US Army, British Army, Soviet Army and German Army. That's why we are the sole superpower in the world and even the "cold war" was a farce. For example, the Soviet Union never had any sources of rubber either. We could end the war in Syria tomorrow if we wanted to by bombing the control towers of international airports in Syria and drying up Russian imports of weapons. But who wants to end the war? While we're making all the $, nobody but the silly civilians.

For German Army Ford trucks see:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=115185
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cherryfunk wrote:
thechangingman wrote:
Probably shouldn't put this on here (and no offence intended...) but we also commented on how much quicker it could've all ended if, ahem, the Americans had decided to get involved a little sooner.... shake

Even if we ignore the fact that we got involved as quickly as FDR could make it happen (Lend-Lease, destroyers for bases, etc.), let's say for the sake of argument that we join you Brits declaring war in 1939, how exactly does that play out? We had almost no army to speak of, and even if we had, until the Germans drive themselves into the Russian mud, there's not much to be done about their continental dominance. An early landing, even an ahistorically powerful one, would simply have been cut to pieces.

Now, if the Russians had acted earlier by joining the Allies, that could have ended the war sooner. Or if the French hadn't completely botched their defense in 1940. Or if the Brits and French had actually come to Poland's aid while it was still fighting -- those scenarios would be more likely to shorten the war than an earlier (and likely ineffectual) US intervention.

And the Swiss weren't 'not giving a shit', they were preparing their defenses and waiting for the Germans to invade (which we now know Hitler likely intended to do once Allies had been taken care of):

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While neutral, Switzerland was prepared to fight a Nazi invasion to the end. The celebrated Swiss Gen. Henri Guisan developed the strategy known as defense du reduit--an initial opposition followed by a retreat into the Alps, where a relentless war to the death would be waged. Most Swiss strongly opposed Nazism. Death sentences were issued for fifth-column activities, and proclamations against anti-Semitism were passed at various official levels. There was no Holocaust on Swiss soil, something that can not be said for France, the Netherlands, Poland or most of Europe.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/nazis/readings...



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