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Subject: 3 Bombers + 1 Shuttle = Scimitar Shuttle Escort Squad rss

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100 Points - Scimitar Shuttle Escort
Omicron Group Pilot + Heavy Laser Cannon + Anti-Persuit Lasers (30pts)
Captain Jonus + Squad Leader (24pts)
Scimitar Squadron Pilot + Assault Missiles (21pts)
Scimitar Squadron Pilot + Assault Missiles + Cluster Missiles (25pts)

ive posted this list on FF Forums as well. would be interested in some ideas for other squads that include a shuttle and at least 2 bombers in the same squad.

I guess the big question here is whether Heavy Laser Cannon is worth it on the shuttle. Its poor movement dial will make it somewhat vulnerable to enemy ships approaching from behind it. After the first few turns it will need to reposition for more attacks with the HLC.

 
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I found HLC+Shuttle to be pretty decent. Because of your 0 maneuver, you've got a good chance of firing it twice in the initial pass - once when you get in range, and the turn after when you perform the 0.

This combo works even better with a weapons engineer to ensure you have target locks for both attacks.
 
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I could see this working really well with a nice alpha strike. As soon as you get within range 3, take that zero maneuver and still be ready for another shot while they are busy trying to deal with all those missiles coming at them.

The only reason I would drop HLC is to get some armament on Jonus. Or maybe replace it with an ION so you can tag a guy and know where he's going. That would help out making the Anti-Persuit Lasers more effective or setting up for a key missile shot. But if you plan on having him out front for action denial and APL hits so your Bombers can release their payload, I would get rid of HLC as they wont be effective at that close range.
 
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I haven't seen much success with multiple bombers in our group. My last attempt with a bomber was a Jendon piloted Shuttle with HLC, Rhymer piloting a bomber with clusters and regular proton, then Howlrunner with Swarm tactics to bring Jendon's initiative up. This worked really well.

Has anyone had success with running two (or more) of them?
 
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locusshifter wrote:
I haven't seen much success with multiple bombers in our group. My last attempt with a bomber was a Jendon piloted Shuttle with HLC, Rhymer piloting a bomber with clusters and regular proton, then Howlrunner with Swarm tactics to bring Jendon's initiative up. This worked really well.

Has anyone had success with running two (or more) of them?


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He's done well with them.

Here's one of his session reports
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1042580/washington-100-pt-to...

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Silver_Surfer wrote:
100 Points - Scimitar Shuttle Escort
Omicron Group Pilot + Heavy Laser Cannon + Anti-Persuit Lasers (30pts)
Captain Jonus + Squad Leader (24pts)
Scimitar Squadron Pilot + Assault Missiles (21pts)
Scimitar Squadron Pilot + Assault Missiles + Cluster Missiles (25pts)


What about...

Omicron Group Pilot + Gunner + Darth Vader + Anti-Pursuit Lasers (31pts)
Captain Jonus + Squad Leader (24pts)
Scimitar Squadron Pilot + Cluster Missiles (20 pts)
Scimitar Squadron Pilot + Assault Missiles + Cluster Missiles (25pts)

I think the HLC option is probably better, BUT there's something to be said for the potential to use Vader twice a turn AND probably land a hit on the attack also. And using Vader shouldn't be too worrisome since the shuttle is unlikely to be the main target for your opponent. I like the idea of your shuttle getting an HLC reroll with Jonus, but I suspect that you'll end up finding it very difficult to keep the shuttle in range and still keep your bombers maneuverable.
 
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killerardvark wrote:
locusshifter wrote:
I haven't seen much success with multiple bombers in our group. My last attempt with a bomber was a Jendon piloted Shuttle with HLC, Rhymer piloting a bomber with clusters and regular proton, then Howlrunner with Swarm tactics to bring Jendon's initiative up. This worked really well.

Has anyone had success with running two (or more) of them?


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He's done well with them.

Here's one of his session reports
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1042580/washington-100-pt-to...

Edited: Had wrong user


Nick won again last night with a 100pt build with 4 bombers. Also, I won a 100 pt game last night with 2 bombers as well.

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I highly recommend getting Anti-Pursuant Lasers on any shuttle. I played a Shuttle + 4 TIEs, and it came down to just the shuttle with full health (and no shields), and a 1 health-remaining A-Wing. The shuttles maneuver dial is so limited, I could never bring the shuttle around to get that A-Wing into my sights. I was able to occasionally have him bump me, and had I brought APLs (which I didn't), I may have won that battle. The A-Wing eventually chipped away at the shuttle and won.

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hmm, im starting to think the shuttle with HLC is too fragile and not worth the points. i mean versus another bomber squad they will just target ur shuttle. more manouverable ships will fly circles around it.
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Silver_Surfer wrote:
hmm, im starting to think the shuttle with HLC is too fragile and not worth the points. i mean versus another bomber squad they will just target ur shuttle. more manouverable ships will fly circles around it.
thoughts?


Well of course 1 on 1 they have a great disadvantage. You have to have some good wingmen to keep them from sitting behind your shuttle.

I've been tossing around a Shuttle+HLC+Gunner+Vader build. Just need something good to go with it keep the heat off of him.
 
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killerardvark wrote:
Silver_Surfer wrote:
hmm, im starting to think the shuttle with HLC is too fragile and not worth the points. i mean versus another bomber squad they will just target ur shuttle. more manouverable ships will fly circles around it.
thoughts?


Well of course 1 on 1 they have a great disadvantage. You have to have some good wingmen to keep them from sitting behind your shuttle.

I've been tossing around a Shuttle+HLC+Gunner+Vader build. Just need something good to go with it keep the heat off of him.


I did shuttle+HLC+Vader, bomber with clusters and assaults, howlrunner with swarm tactics and won. The shuttle used the hlc quite a few times.
 
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locusshifter wrote:
killerardvark wrote:
Silver_Surfer wrote:
hmm, im starting to think the shuttle with HLC is too fragile and not worth the points. i mean versus another bomber squad they will just target ur shuttle. more manouverable ships will fly circles around it.
thoughts?


Well of course 1 on 1 they have a great disadvantage. You have to have some good wingmen to keep them from sitting behind your shuttle.

I've been tossing around a Shuttle+HLC+Gunner+Vader build. Just need something good to go with it keep the heat off of him.


I did shuttle+HLC+Vader, bomber with clusters and assaults, howlrunner with swarm tactics and won. The shuttle used the hlc quite a few times.


I was thinking...
===Code Named: Suicide Squad===
Shuttle
+HLC
+Gunner
+Vader
Jonus
+Something...maybe Swarm Tactics
Bounty Hunter
+HLC

Jonus is going to make those HLC hits hurt! And in the event they don't take this ship down. Sacrifice 2 hits for the kill...worth it...maybe? We'll see when I get a chance to play this. Against a low ship count squad I think it would be huge. Against a "swarm" style squad. Maybe less so.
 
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I rarely try to match up my squad to a specific type of opponent squad. Rather, I try to get a nice, well rounded one that plays to my strengths (i.e. how I think and maneuver).

With that in mind, when I bring a shuttle, I tend to do this configuration:
- (27) Captain Kagi
- (3) Rebel Captive
- (3) Sensor Jammer
- (2) Anti Pursuant Lasers

That's 35 pts for a damage soaker. Kagi's ability is quite nice to keep more fragile TIEs alive longer. And the Sensor Jammer is very handy since it's usable on every attack. I also would not worry a cannon unless you've got the extra points. The Shuttles maneuvers are so limited, it's hard to get them into position, so most offensive capabilities are lost. I'd rather put Darth Vader in the shuttle instead of HLC. And with APLs, it is easy for the shuttle to get in the way of enemy ships, and so it can score some damage.

-shnar
 
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I think that one of the tricks to a multiple bomber group is that they are loaded out more or less the same.

There is no clear "priority" target.
 
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