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An almost-standard P11, low-complexity game of Werewolf!

Rules post stolen from tireless linguistfromhell.

Good Roles:

Seer - Each night receives a vision of a target player and learns the players nature (Wolf/Not Wolf). The seer receives a vision on Night 0 of one randomly chosen player that is not a wolf. Thereafter, the seer chooses which player to view. If the Seer is absent / in need of replacement, the moderator will provide a random negative view out of all players who were alive after lynch.

Hunter - If only two players remain in the game and the hunter is one of those players, then the good team wins even if the other player is a werewolf. He is brutal when killed. The brutal kill is mandatory. If there is no order in modchat then it will be selected at random.

Martyr- Each night, may choose one player, and if that player is targeted for night kill, the martyr will die in his place. The martyr may choose the same person consecutively without restriction. Notice that martyr does not work to stop lynches or the brutal retaliation ability.

5 Villagers - Ordinary villagers with no special powers.


Evil Roles:

2 Werewolves - The werewolves know each other's identity, and may private message/chat without restriction. Each night the wolves choose one target player to kill. There is no kill on Night 0. If there is a werewolf alive, the last night kill order will go through - even if the last person to place a night kill order has died since the order was given. (Example: Player A and B are werewolves. Player A selects a Night Kill target during the day, but is lynched. If Player B is still alive and has not put in a more recent Night Kill order, Player A's Night Kill order will be carried out.)
One of the wolves is brutal and must kill another player if killed. The brutal is mandatory. If there is no order in modchat the brutal will be selected randomly from all of the non-wolves.
Notice: In this version of the P11, both wolves will be given a Retaliate order. Only the first one that is used is the one that will be implemented. Yes, this means it doesn't matter which werewolf is killed first.
Notice 2: In the case where the only surviving Werewolf player has been put up for replacement (whether voluntarily or via the Proof of Life rule), the moderator will enact random NKs from all available non-wolves.

Cultist-Sorcerer - The Cultist-Sorcerer knows the identity of the werewolves and wins with them, even if dead. Each night, he may view a player to see if they are the seer or not. He gets a random negative N0 view. If the Cultist-Sorcerer is absent / in need of replacement, the moderator will provide a random negative view out of all players who were alive after lynch.


Victory Conditions:

Good - All good players win if all werewolves are eliminated, or if the last two players remaining are the hunter and one werewolf.

Evil - All evil players win if the wolves achieve parity: if at any time the number of wolves remaining equals the number of non-wolves remaining, evil wins. However, if one wolf is left with the hunter, then good wins.

Draw - If everyone dies, then I win and all players end in a draw. (Actually impossible in this roleset ...)


Brutal Rules:

The Brutal Kill is simultaneous to all other actions, i.e.: The Brutal Werewolf is lynched and targets the Brutal Hunter. If the Brutal Hunter's order is still on the Brutal Werewolf, there is no other death.
If the Brutal's target died BEFORE the Brutal Character, then the kill will be chosen at random.
In the endgame scenario where there is: 1 Hunter, 1 Wolf, and 1 other non-wolf (Villager, Good special, Sorcerer), and the Hunter is killed and targets the wolf, the wolf will be killed, and good wins. Parity will be checked after all processing is complete.
If the first werewolf killed does not have a brutal order in, his brutal will be a random non-wolf, as selected by Cassandra.


Lynch Rules:

Each day players vote for one player to be lynched. The player receiving the most votes is killed. If there is a tie between two or more players, the tied player with the longest held last vote is killed.

Lynch time is 1:00 PM BGG Time. Votes cast with the lynch time time-stamp are counted. Votes cast after this time are invalid. Votes made during the night phase are invalid.

All votes must conform to the Cassandra Vote Tally System rules. (Will be posted once the game starts). If all living players vote night fall it will speed up the dusk. If there is a tie in the lynch votes, it will be broken by longest held last vote.


Night Orders:

Wolves, Seer, Martyr, and Sorcerer must all submit their night orders by Dawn. Dawn will be at 2:00 PM BGG time. Players can do this by using the Cassandra Game Order system in the Cassandra Chat System.

If all living players (including those with out night actions) click on the 'Lock Game Actions' button it will speed up Dawn.


Role Reveal:

All roles will be revealed on death (regardless of method)(Full Role Reveal).


Replacement / Posting Rules:

This is not a "Post For Your Life" game. However, anyone who does not communicate at least once during a Dawn - Dusk cycle will be put up for replacement. Valid communication includes:
Posting in the thread,
Talking in your Modchat in Cassandra, or
Geekmailing the moderator.
Exceptions will obviously be made for anyone that announces ahead of time that they will be away from the internet.
Players will be allowed to replace themselves (clicking on the replace icon indicates that you are near the internet - right?).

Please do not sign up for the game if you do not plan on being an active player. Thank you.
You are also required to show a proof of life prior to "12 hours before first dusk".
Please note that these are "bare minimums". The moderator has the right to hit the replace button in spite of your meeting the "one post per day" guideline if you are unresponsive to geekmails / modchat queries. This will not be done capriciously and will only be done after consultation with outside parties, to ensure objectivity.
Note that if I replace you due to lack of activity, I will not let you back into one of my Hi games until you can show in another game that you are willing to be an active member of the Village.

Please don't post after the Dusk/Dawn deadline, even if the mod has not told you to stop posting. Warnings will be given for first offences, but repeated offences might have consequences.

Making out-of-game promises to other players in order to influence their actions in a game is against the rules, so is quoting something told to you by the moderator directly from your hidden modchat, unless the rules of a game specifically say otherwise or the moderator has given you explicit permission. Paraphrasing such things is usually allowed.

Personal attacks or offensive language will merit a warning. Second offense will merit a modkill. Granted, this is subjective, so I will always get a second opinion before acting. Regardless, I'm tired of the hostility and the occasional attitude.
Police yourselves, please.


META RULES:

As this is meant to be a "learning" style game, I incorporate a number of "Meta" into the Hi series of games.
1. Brand new players will be assigned advisors, who will only have as much information as the player, and can talk to them in modchat.
2. I will allow players to geekmail me before the game and request a role. They can do this by requesting a specific role, an alignment or "anything but".
3. There is an informal "Do Not Lynch" the newbie on D1. This is not set in stone and I am simply asking that you have good and solid reasons for lynching a brand new player on D1. Lynching a new player is not forbidden and will not be punished, but we are trying to encourage active participation and killing off newer players will discourage any expanding player base.
NOTICE
Just because a player does not have a long record on BGG/Cassy, that does not make them a "new" player.


Important Information:
Tiebreaker: longest held last vote
Lynch time: 1:00 PM BGG Time
Night Action Deadline: 2:00 PM BGG Time

Weekend Policy: No game actions will process over the American weekend, although players will be free to post and use chats as desired.


Please let me know if you have any questions!

This game will start when full.

As an FYI, here's Snaak's "Guide to Playing Werewolf on BGG!

And here is a Dictionary of terms that are used often in our BGG WW games: /wiki/page/BGG_Werewolf_PBF_Dictionary
 
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #44) - In signup (0/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
Player List According to Cassandra:
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11 players are signed up.

To sign up for this game go to
http://www.thecassandraproject.org/jeremy/werewolf/game/1048...
 
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (1/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
I just signed up on Cassandra.
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (1/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
Scarlett_O wrote:
I just signed up on Cassandra.
Hi Scarlett! Welcome!
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (1/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
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Scarlett_O wrote:
I just signed up on Cassandra.
Hi Scarlett! Welcome!


Hi!

Thanks!
 
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (1/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
I just signed up on Cassandra.
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (4/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
*insert something witty here*

Count me in!
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (5/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
I just signed up on Cassandra.
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (5/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
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I just signed up on Cassandra, and I loved it.
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (7/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
Bring it on. I need my fix. Sanity not guaranteed.
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (7/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
Taxshop wrote:
Bring it on. I need my fix. Sanity not guaranteed.


Well who needs sanity when you have spongebob mittens?
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (9/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
I just signed up on Cassandra. Been a while since I've played a normal game, this should be fun.
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (10/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (11/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
Cool, we're full!
I'm going to get mentors for the new people, and let people know that we're full.

How do people feel about a Monday start, first lynch Tuesday?
 
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (10/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
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Draw - If everyone dies, then I win and all players end in a draw. (Actually impossible in this roleset ...)

Objection: What happens if there is brutal Hunter, brutal Wolf and villager remaining, and one brutal dies, brutals the other who brutals a villager? You addressed one way explicitly, but not the other. Or are you ruling that despite simultenaity, if the brutal Wolf is the second Wolf to die, his brutal is not activated?
 
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (11/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
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Draw - If everyone dies, then I win and all players end in a draw. (Actually impossible in this roleset ...)

Objection: What happens if there is brutal Hunter, brutal Wolf and villager remaining, and one brutal dies, brutals the other who brutals a villager? You addressed one way explicitly, but not the other. Or are you ruling that despite simultenaity, if the brutal Wolf is the second Wolf to die, his brutal is not activated?
First wolf to die is brutal, in this set. Second wolf to die has no brutal.
 
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (11/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
Phelanpt wrote:
Cool, we're full!
I'm going to get mentors for the new people, and let people know that we're full.

How do people feel about a Monday start, first lynch Tuesday?


Works for me
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (11/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
Phelanpt wrote:
Cool, we're full!
I'm going to get mentors for the new people, and let people know that we're full.

How do people feel about a Monday start, first lynch Tuesday?

How about Monday start first lynch Monday?
 
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (11/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
zenyoul wrote:
Phelanpt wrote:
Cool, we're full!
I'm going to get mentors for the new people, and let people know that we're full.

How do people feel about a Monday start, first lynch Tuesday?

How about Monday start first lynch Monday?
Nope.

I could do Sunday start if everyone wants it, but D1 will have at least 24 hours.
 
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Taxshop wrote:
Phelanpt wrote:
Cool, we're full!
I'm going to get mentors for the new people, and let people know that we're full.

How do people feel about a Monday start, first lynch Tuesday?


Works for me


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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (11/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
Phelanpt wrote:
zenyoul wrote:
Phelanpt wrote:
Cool, we're full!
I'm going to get mentors for the new people, and let people know that we're full.

How do people feel about a Monday start, first lynch Tuesday?

How about Monday start first lynch Monday?
Nope.

I could do Sunday start if everyone wants it, but D1 will have at least 24 hours.

In that case, I'm okay with Sunday start or Monday start.
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (11/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
Ok, it's looking more likely that I'll do Sunday start and Tuesday First Lynch.

If everyone is in for a Monday lynch, though, it can still happen.
 
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (11/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
I'm ready whenever you decide.
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Re: Newbie Friendly, Veteran Approved 11er (Hi #45) - In signup (11/11) - Dusk at 1 PM BGG
Phelanpt wrote:
Ok, it's looking more likely that I'll do Sunday start and Tuesday First Lynch.

If everyone is in for a Monday lynch, though, it can still happen.


I definitely prefer a Tuesday 1st lynch
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