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There's nothing new here, but it is cool to see what it sounds like when they don't know we're watching.



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"I just did CNN and I just go over and over again 'We're willing to compromise, we're willing to negotiate.' I think -- I don't think they poll tested 'we won't negotiate.' I think it's awful for them to say that over and over again," Paul said of the Obama administration's stance on the shutdown.

"Yeah, I do too, and I just came back from that two hour meeting with them, and that was basically the same view privately as it was publicly," McConnell said.

"I think if we keep saying 'We wanted to defund it. We fought for that but now we're willing to compromise on this,' I think they can't -- we're gonna, I think -- well I know we don't want to be here, but we're gonna win this I think," he said.


We know that the Republicans are better at "shaping the message" and keeping the sane members of their caucus on message. Rand Paul's comment about the Democrats not "poll-testing" their messages is most certainly true, but it also illustrates how the Republicans think.

He also thinks they are going to "win"... Win what exactly? I don't think there can be a winner out of this mess.
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Re: McConnell and Paul caught on a hot mike.
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He also thinks they are going to "win"... Win what exactly?


The PR battle ahead of whatever the next election cycle is. What else matters?
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fenners wrote:
jmilum wrote:

He also thinks they are going to "win"... Win what exactly?


The PR battle ahead of whatever the next election cycle is. What else matters?


Nothing is more important than winning the next election. Not morality. Not governing. Not saving lives. NOTHING!
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They are so deluded if they think they are going to "win" by doing this. I want that Koolaid they are drinking. It must have excellent drugs and booze in it.

I am going to be Daisy until they lose...however long that takes.
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Re: McConnell and Paul caught on a hot mike.
jmilum wrote:
There's nothing new here, but it is cool to see what it sounds like when they don't know we're watching.



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"I just did CNN and I just go over and over again 'We're willing to compromise, we're willing to negotiate.' I think -- I don't think they poll tested 'we won't negotiate.' I think it's awful for them to say that over and over again," Paul said of the Obama administration's stance on the shutdown.

"Yeah, I do too, and I just came back from that two hour meeting with them, and that was basically the same view privately as it was publicly," McConnell said.

"I think if we keep saying 'We wanted to defund it. We fought for that but now we're willing to compromise on this,' I think they can't -- we're gonna, I think -- well I know we don't want to be here, but we're gonna win this I think," he said.


We know that the Republicans are better at "shaping the message" and keeping the sane members of their caucus on message. Rand Paul's comment about the Democrats not "poll-testing" their messages is most certainly true, but it also illustrates how the Republicans think.

He also thinks they are going to "win"... Win what exactly? I don't think there can be a winner out of this mess.


WTH?

The screen of "suggested" videos after this finishes is very "suggestive" all right.

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It appears to be some sort of SEO. All those videos are named the same as the hot mic one, but with different cover shots. They also seem to be the same sports show. Kooky
 
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They are so deluded if they think they are going to "win" by doing this. I want that Koolaid they are drinking. It must have excellent drugs and booze in it.

I am going to be Daisy until they lose...however long that takes.
Yep, given that the polls seem to indicate that most Americans want the bill passed clean rather then have a shut down. It's hard to see who they think they are grandstanding for.

It's like the autistic kid who pulls his trousers down in a shop for attention not understanding it's not positive attention.
 
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The only thing they can win is TeaBaggers.

 
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The only thing they can win is TeaBaggers.



I'd teabag them.
 
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bjlillo wrote:
CrankyPants wrote:
Altair IV wrote:
The only thing they can win is TeaBaggers.



I'd teabag them.


Paul Ryan wasn't in that video.
thats because he doesn't support holding the CR hostage for Obamacare.
 
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jmilum wrote:
There's nothing new here, but it is cool to see what it sounds like when they don't know we're watching.



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"I just did CNN and I just go over and over again 'We're willing to compromise, we're willing to negotiate.' I think -- I don't think they poll tested 'we won't negotiate.' I think it's awful for them to say that over and over again," Paul said of the Obama administration's stance on the shutdown.

"Yeah, I do too, and I just came back from that two hour meeting with them, and that was basically the same view privately as it was publicly," McConnell said.

"I think if we keep saying 'We wanted to defund it. We fought for that but now we're willing to compromise on this,' I think they can't -- we're gonna, I think -- well I know we don't want to be here, but we're gonna win this I think," he said.


We know that the Republicans are better at "shaping the message" and keeping the sane members of their caucus on message. Rand Paul's comment about the Democrats not "poll-testing" their messages is most certainly true, but it also illustrates how the Republicans think.

He also thinks they are going to "win"... Win what exactly? I don't think there can be a winner out of this mess.


Nobody wants to see how they make the sausages.
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Two-sides of the same coin

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230349250457911...

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Said a senior administration official: "We are winning...It doesn't really matter to us" how long the shutdown lasts "because what matters is the end result."
 
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Senator saying it vs. an anonymous senior administration official.
 
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Well, that is the standard way to get information out of the WH. I would also expect that the McConnell/Rand conversation was semi-staged, knowing they would probably be overheard.

This is about politics on both sides, at some level.
 
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I know that the WH has disavowed that comment and stated that no one wins in this mess. I don't know if Rand Paul has done the same for his comment. If it was staged, then I suppose not.
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