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I know the game comes with 16 Army units for each player, plus the same number of barbarians.

Do people ever use this many at one time? Could I get away with, for example, 10 per player?

I'm looking to pimp my game with some wargaming miniatures, and as they tend to come in boxes of 40 or so, I'm looking to economise on boxes.
 
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Replacement Army miniatures. How low can you go?
Check out www.plasticsoldierreview.com.

Personally I favour Zvezda. I suggest -

Persians: 41 (useable figures)
Spartans: 33
Greeks: 41
Republican Romans: 40
Gauls: 36
Vikings: 41 (anachronistic, but looking superbly barbaric).

They are so good you probably won't care you end up buying too many.
 
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FiretopMountain wrote:
I know the game comes with 16 Army units for each player, plus the same number of barbarians.

Do people ever use this many at one time? Could I get away with, for example, 10 per player?

I'm looking to pimp my game with some wargaming miniatures, and as they tend to come in boxes of 40 or so, I'm looking to economise on boxes.


Yes, you need all the pieces. It's unlikely that all players will need all their pieces in a game, but it pretty common for a couple of them to max out a few things.

As for barbarians, I've never seen all of them in play, but can see how it could happen pretty easily.

It might be noteworthy that if players are building enough armies to max out, all the barbarians probably won't be in play and vice versa.
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Short answer - yes.

I haven't run out yet, but others have I think. 10 army units however has been common at some point in my games and also more at times. Also if people for some reason don't kill barbarians, they can add up fast (10 cards each put 2 units on and 4 tiles 1 unit). But can't you just keep the originals in reserve? So either get one box of 40 for 10 to each player - or two boxes giving 14 to each player and barbarians.
 
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Thanks guys! I think Zvezda or Caesar look like the best quality models, if sticking to plastics for the price.

I am currently debating purchasing:

Africans (Blue)
Caesar Set H009 Egyptian Army
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=843

East Asians (Red)
Caesar Set H004 Ch'in Dynasty Army
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=796

Europeans (Green)
Caesar Set H065 Greek Warriors (Hoplites)
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1395

South Americans (Purple? Pending expansion!)
Caesar Set H027 Maya Warriors
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1106
I haven't found any decent North American miniatures (pre-gunpowder).

South Asians (Yellow)
Caesar Set H023 Arab Camel Riders and Bedouin
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1046

The idea is that having an army per continent will be enough to be compatible with any named civilizations that may come with the expansion. Europeans can be Greeks or Romans, Americans can be Mayans or Aztecs, etc.

Each box (of about 40) should provide me with two lots of 16 'soldiers' and approximately 4 local barbarians (Carthaginans, Mongols, Trojans etc.). I know those pesky vikings got everywhere, but I do like the idea of local barbarians.

The only downside with this shopping list is the lack of South Asian bbarbarians, as that Caesar set 'only' comes with 32 infantry. This Zvezda set comes with enough models, but they are Persians rather than Bedouins, and I did want to use the nicely turbanned Caesar figures as extremely generic Persians/Arabs/Indians: http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=383 . Perhaps we just don't have any South Asian barbarians.

Would anyone be interested in going halves with me, to the tune of about £15-20? I am based in the UK for postage. At about £7 per box, I'm looking at £35 for 5 continents of troops, so for the low low price of £15-20 you can pimp your game to the tune of 5 armies of 16 soldiers and 4 barbarians, i.e. 100 miniatures. I make that 20p per miniature, max.
 
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Randor20 wrote:
either get one box of 40 for 10 to each player - or two boxes giving 14 to each player and barbarians.


As a budget alternative, I am looking at 'Caesar Set H048 The Sea Peoples': http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1102 .

One £7 box provides 40-odd generic-looking ancients, i.e. two full factions of 16 soldiers and 4 barbarians. Two boxes provides enough for four factions.

A factor of this budget alternative is that all four factions will look the same. This may actually be a benefit: it is more in keeping with the original game's generic feel.

You may have seen my unsolicited diatribes elsewhere, about how I like using continents/races in civ games (usual disclaimers about race being a spectrum etc.), instead of nationalities. I actually fear that introducing identifiable miniatures of any kind would make the game too restrictive, even if I hassle and intimidate my co-players into calling them 'Europeans' instead of 'Greeks' etc.

Another benefit to more generic miniatures is that if the forthcoming expansion does turn out to include named civilizations, I can rest easy that any army can count as any civ.

I think I'm convincing myself. These Sea Peoples will look great for any continent (I may paint them with four different skin tones), and the clothing looks suitable for any bronze age/iron age level of technology. I think they could really work for representing a soldier from any continent, from 4,000 BC to 1,000 AD. If you don't mind your Romans going topless.
 
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All of these look pretty good!

Looks like the site is a review site. You can't order from them? Where does one go about buying these kinds of miniatures?
 
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Misterboy wrote:
Looks like the site is a review site. You can't order from them? Where does one go about buying these kinds of miniatures?
Check out the Links on the site.

Or move to the UK.
 
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misteralan wrote:
Misterboy wrote:
Looks like the site is a review site. You can't order from them? Where does one go about buying these kinds of miniatures?
Check out the Links on the site.

Or move to the UK.


Ah. The seller information is listed under the really obvious "Links" link on left. I don't know how I missed that. whistle

I lived in the UK for years. Given the way things are in the US, I'm very inclined to move back.
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Here's my current thinking.

For the Europeans, I'm going for Republican Romans, as a nice middle ground between the too-iconic Greek Hoplites and Imperial Romans.

In all cases:

Army Units = Melee weapons
Barbarians = Ranged Weapons

Arabians/Africans
Caesar Set H066 Persian Warriors
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1396
Clothing: green, the colour of oases.
Buildings: white walls, green roofs.

Americans
Caesar Set H027 Maya Warriors
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1106
Clothing: yellow, the colour of the sun.
Buildings: tan walls, gold roofs.

Asians
Caesar Set H004 Ch'in Dynasty Army
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=796
Clothing: red, the colour of good luck.
Buildings: red walls, black roofs.

Europeans
Caesar Set H045 Republican Roman Army
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1331
Clothing: blue, the colour of the sea.
Buildings: grey walls, blue roofs.
No ranged weapons in this set, so will do some hairy headswaps to make barbarians in the Celtic/Gallic style.

£25 for the lot. This will neatly provide a themed set of 16 Army Units and 4 Barbarians, for each of the four civilizations, twice.

Geekmail me if you want to purchase my spare set of 80 miniatures for £12.50 + P&P!
 
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I bought these miniatures in the end. They look good, and are in fair scale with the Settlers (and the original Army units). I've assembled them, and will try and post some pics once they're painted.
 
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