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The historical notes of this game are great and well aligned with the game. Real good job !

There is a little detail that comes back very often with Toyotomi's history that I wanted to correct. Hope I will be able to improve the understanding.

Two statements in the historical notes cannot be more wrong:
"His heir was a boy of 5 years hastily declared an adult and anointed the new taiko"
"The title of Shogun, inaccessible to Toyotomi, for reason of low birth,was accorded to Tokugawa"

What is a Taiko and what is a Shogun ?

These are two titles created during the Heian Period of Japan.
They are awarded by the Emperor.
They are first rank nobility titles.

A Taiko is a retired Kanpaku, the regent to an adult Emperor.
A Shogun is an Army General (originally fighting the Emishi in North East Japan and later just a military dictator).

Over time, the titles have been trusted officially by 2 noble families:
- the Fujiwara for the title of Kanpaku (from the origin)
- the Minamoto for the title of Shogun (from the 12th century)

To be awarded these titles you must of course be a noble, but also be part of these families.
Hideyoshi had got his first nobility titles in the 1570s. To be able to become Kanpaku in 1585, he was adopted inside the Fujiwara family. When he retired from Kanpaku title in favor of his adopted son Hidetsugu, he became a Taiko.
Ieyasu has claimed when he changed his family name to Tokugawa that his family is related to the Minamoto, but it is more than likely made up.

So why did Hideyoshi not become Shogun:
- first because the last Ashikaga shogun was still alive in 1585, which was not the case in 1603
- the Fujiwara noble that adopted him owed him his wealth, so he was very easy to convince
- Kanpaku and Shogun are of equal imperial rank and have both ruled Japan in the past
- Who cares the title as long as the person in power is clear ?

What was Toyotomi Hideyori title at Hideyoshi's death ?
- He was nominated Dainagon of second imperial rank, which is already a great title for a 6-year old. On his dead bed, Hideyoshi entrusted especially to the wisedom of a certain Tokugawa Ieyasu to decide whether the child will be worth the title of Kanpaku later !


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Another more subtle data

- Ishida Mitsunari has promised the title of Kanpaku to Kobayakawa Hideaki for him rallying the Western Army at Sekigahara
- He would have kept that title until Hideyori was grown up and passed it over to him. Guess Hideaki would have retired and become Taiko at that point.

- What about Ishida if he had won ? Would the Bugyo office have become the regent to the Kanpaku/Taiko arrrh?
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