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Okay, so I'm looking for a game that plays well solo (has much needed variety and fun) but also has a decent 2-player variant (co-op or competitive). Mage Knight and Robinson Crusoe both seem like swell choices, but I'm not so sure I'm ready for either the complexity or the length quite yet. (Unless convinced otherwise..) So what do you recommend? More points for Adventure/Fantasy theme, but not required.
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The games you mentioned were two of the three that I thought of.

The third that I can recommend would be The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game.

This is designed more as a two player game, but I've found that it also works well for 1 or 3 players.
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Hey Adam, thank you. Is the game easy to teach?
 
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I would also suggest the Pathfinder Adventure Card Game. Despite all the rule threads and questions, it is straightforward, easy to teach, and very fun. It works well solo, paticularly playing with multiple characters, and scales up to 6 people.

Other suggestions: Gears of War, Mice and Mystics, and almost any other co-op game.
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UnknownAmnesiac wrote:
Hey Adam, thank you. Is the game easy to teach?
Unfortunately, I'm not sure how difficult it would be to teach. I've only played with people that knew how to play, so I can't say for certain. It's definitely not at the level of Mage Knight, but it does have some complexity to it. I don't think it would be too difficult to teach, but there are some nuances to it that are harder to grasp.

Would definitely recommend playing this solo before attempting to teach it.
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Just a great game. I play solo controlling all four monks, although there's an official solo variant where you only control one if you prefer that. It also plays great with 2, 3, or 4.
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If the person you are teaching it to has played any card games before, then it isn't that difficult. Even if they haven't, it is still a pretty easy game to pick up. The game has a pretty extensive turn order which really helps (as long as you walk through all of the steps the first couple of times you play it).
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If you dont mind a long game (since you play Mage Knight I assume you dont) you should take a look at Arkham Horror, although you have to play 2-3 investigators at the same time its worth it
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If you are looking for an adventure game, Runebound 2e is a good one that plays well solo (with a minor variant) or with 2. Same thing with World of Warcraft the board game (not the adventure game), but that one is a big expensive monster (real fun though).
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As you said Mage Knight and Robinson are excellent choices, although complicated.

For simpler games I recommend:

Flash Point: Fire Rescue
Space Hulk Death Angel the card game
Gears of War (slightly complicated)
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Akden wrote:
I would also suggest the Pathfinder Adventure Card Game. Despite all the rule threads and questions, it is straightforward, easy to teach, and very fun. It works well solo, paticularly playing with multiple characters, and scales up to 6 people.

Other suggestions: Gears of War, Mice and Mystics, and almost any other co-op game.
Mice and Mystics seems like it might be a little long, but Pathfinder has definitely been on my mind. I am hesitant about the rules being an issue like you said though.
 
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To everyone else thank you and I'll research your suggestions when I get the time.
 
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Pouvla wrote:
If you dont mind a long game (since you play Mage Knight I assume you dont) you should take a look at Arkham Horror, although you have to play 2-3 investigators at the same time its worth it
I haven't actually played Mage Knight, sorry if I made it seem that way. Not sure I have the table space or the time for Arkham Horror.
 
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I see from your profile you are familiar with Netrunner and MtG. You should have no problem learning Pathfinder. The rules questions are so numerous I think primarily because of its immense popularity.

I'll also recommend Darkest Night if you decide to look into a longer more involved game. I think the rules are pretty simple, but it will take you a while to play an entire game. It is much easier than Arkham Horror though.
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I see from your profile you are familiar with Netrunner and MtG. You should have no problem learning Pathfinder. The rules questions are so numerous I think primarily because of its immense popularity.

I'll also recommend Darkest Night if you decide to look into a longer more involved game. I think the rules are pretty simple, but it will take you a while to play an entire game. It is much easier than Arkham Horror though.
I've actually been trying to remember the name of that game, so thanks for reminding me, I'll definitely look into it. Though it does appear pretty lengthy, maybe the simplicity will outweigh that?
 
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K2 is very fun solo and plays well with two. Easy rules, lots of tension, and scalable from 1 - 5.
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Have you found this game easy to teach people? It's just right now I'm not seeking anything at the level of A:Netrunner or Mage Wars when it comes to a learning curve...
 
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Does anyone know if Agricola or Le Havre (Though if I were to get this I might as well just get Mage Knight I suppose) are worth getting primarily for solo play, at least early on until I play with others?
 
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UnknownAmnesiac wrote:
Does anyone know if Agricola or Le Havre (Though if I were to get this I might as well just get Mage Knight I suppose) are worth getting primarily for solo play, at least early on until I play with others?
I believe so, plus there are solo variants available (SoloPlay) that are different for both games' solitaire rules in the rulebook. So 2 ways to play.

In my opinion though, for solo play, At the Gates of Loyang beats them both.
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telengard wrote:
UnknownAmnesiac wrote:
Does anyone know if Agricola or Le Havre (Though if I were to get this I might as well just get Mage Knight I suppose) are worth getting primarily for solo play, at least early on until I play with others?
I believe so, plus there are solo variants available (SoloPlay) that are different for both games' solitaire rules in the rulebook. So 2 ways to play.

In my opinion though, for solo play, At the Gates of Loyang beats them both.
Hey, thanks for the reply. I'll check that out.
 
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It might be worth your while investigating Castaways; it's a little less complex than Robinson Crusoe but seems like a great deal of fun so far.

Also tempted to recommend Legends of Andor; co-op fantasy puzzler which you can play solo with multiple characters.

Simpler still? Pathfinder Adventure Card Game: Rise of the Runelords – Base Set is absolutely excellent; I'd also back the suggestions for The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game.

For something a little different, try Snowdonia or K2.

Failing all that, try Thunderstone Advance: Towers of Ruin or - if you're comfortable playing two hands - my current darling, Shadowrift. I'll play any of these solo or with my wife. They're great either way.

But, yeah, give Mage Knight, Le Havre and Arkham Horror a crack when you're feeling bolder. They're amazing.
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repairmanjack wrote:
It might be worth your while investigating Castaways; it's a little less complex than Robinson Crusoe but seems like a great deal of fun so far.

Also tempted to recommend Legends of Andor; co-op fantasy puzzler which you can play solo with multiple characters.

Simpler still? Pathfinder Adventure Card Game: Rise of the Runelords – Base Set is absolutely excellent; I'd also back the suggestions for The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game.

For something a little different, try Snowdonia or K2.

Failing all that, try Thunderstone Advance: Towers of Ruin or - if you're comfortable playing two hands - my current darling, Shadowrift. I'll play any of these solo or with my wife. They're great either way.

But, yeah, give Mage Knight, Le Havre and Arkham Horror a crack when you're feeling bolder. They're amazing.
Thanks for the wealth of suggestions. Certainly a lot to sink my teeth in terms of options and variety, so much appreciated.
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Another vote for Darkest Night. My wife and I have recently discovered it and really enjoy it!
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Cool, thanks for the tip.
 
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