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This just seems so wrong. Unpaid interns are probably the most vulnerable members of the workforce, because they are unlikely complain about anything as they are trying to get their careers moving in the right direction. This sets them up to become the victims of predators in the workforce.

http://www.propublica.org/article/how-unpaid-interns-arent-p...
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This is disgusting. It's clear to me that interns should have the same legal protections as any otehr worker (and volunteers to, and I know of some places that do give unpaid workers the same rights as paid workers).
 
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Another unnecessary regulation and empowerment of big fluffy bunny government, when in fact nobody would be working for sexual deviants in a free market economy. Obviously.
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Obviously this is the correct way to do things. In order for a citizen to accept their role in society of worshiping at the altar of free market economy it is necessary to break their spirits early on. After all this great nation has fought long hard to establish such a system.
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Did we learn nothing from Bill and Monica?


I don't share your former pres' taste in women? America want to behead their president because he got a blowjob? Bill Clinton is a criminal because he does not want to give a detailed account of his sex experiences? There is more that one way to use a cigar?

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what do i need to do to get me some unpaid interns?
they sound like fun!
 
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dennisthebadger wrote:
what do i need to do to get me some unpaid interns?
they sound like fun!

Again someone posts something like this - a "joke" where the "funny" part is about how nudge-nudge-wink-wink it would be just great if all us neanderthal males could just go out and forcibly fuck who we wanted and didn't have to worry about those pesky laws against force and coercion.

To save everyone time, we need a concise standardised response that makes it clear that:
1) this is not funny,
2) it's one more exhibit of how widespread, pervasive and culturally accepted this "humour" is, even among people who see nothing offensive and may even be otherwise nice guys
3) We don't want to have this debate again (you know, the one in which a few people loudly assert their right to not be thought boorish when they act boorishly) every time something inane is said along the same lines.

I propose the simple response: "Gary?"
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Would it be insensitive to point out that unpaid interns probably can't afford a lawyer to bring suit anyway?

This does seem like a loophole begging to be corrected, although there are probably reasons that it exists. If unpaid interns can sue, then volunteers might be able to and then it would become really easy to shut down non-profits by forcing them to defend against frivolous lawsuits.
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HavocIsHere wrote:
America want to behead their president because he got a blowjob?


I will forgive your lack of understanding on this because you are from Germany. He was never threatened to be beheaded. He did however lie under oath as the commander in chief, which if allowed to pass without getting impeachment would have allowed future presidents to simply lie under oath without repercussions.

the uninformed people in the USA think he was impeached for having an affair, when in fact that was not the reason.
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America want to behead their president because he got a blowjob?


I will forgive your lack of understanding on this because you are from Germany.

Lol wut?
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*stuff that doesn't matter for present purposes*


I will forgive your lack of understanding on this because you are from Germany. He was never threatened to be beheaded....

LOL

I will let the proud Belgian respond properly to this one.
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the uninformed people in the USA think he was impeached for having an affair, when in fact that was not the reason.


True. He was impeached because he was a Democrat and the GOP controlled the House.

We see echoes of this in the number of GOP Congressmen who have either endorsed impeaching Obama or at least expressed positive sentiments towards it, without even the pretense of an actual crime.
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jeremycobert wrote:
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America want to behead their president because he got a blowjob?


I will forgive your lack of understanding on this because you are from Germany.

Lol wut?


same difference !

you will need to see a previous exchange between him and I to understand why that is funny.
 
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dennisthebadger wrote:
what do i need to do to get me some unpaid interns?
they sound like fun!

Again someone posts something like this - a "joke" where the "funny" part is about how nudge-nudge-wink-wink it would be just great if all us neanderthal males could just go out and forcibly fuck who we wanted and didn't have to worry about those pesky laws against force and coercion.

To save everyone time, we need a concise standardised response that makes it clear that:
1) this is not funny,
2) it's one more exhibit of how widespread, pervasive and culturally accepted this "humour" is, even among people who see nothing offensive and may even be otherwise nice guys
3) We don't want to have this debate again (you know, the one in which a few people loudly assert their right to not be thought boorish when they act boorishly) every time something inane is said along the same lines.

I propose the simple response: "Gary?"


never heard of "subversive affirmation" or "over-idenification", have you?
Interesting though that you find only a single way to interpret my comment...
 
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dennisthebadger wrote:
hsquid wrote:
dennisthebadger wrote:
what do i need to do to get me some unpaid interns?
they sound like fun!

Again someone posts something like this - a "joke" where the "funny" part is about how nudge-nudge-wink-wink it would be just great if all us neanderthal males could just go out and forcibly fuck who we wanted and didn't have to worry about those pesky laws against force and coercion.

To save everyone time, we need a concise standardised response that makes it clear that:
1) this is not funny,
2) it's one more exhibit of how widespread, pervasive and culturally accepted this "humour" is, even among people who see nothing offensive and may even be otherwise nice guys
3) We don't want to have this debate again (you know, the one in which a few people loudly assert their right to not be thought boorish when they act boorishly) every time something inane is said along the same lines.

I propose the simple response: "Gary?"


never heard of "subversive affirmation" or "over-idenification", have you?
Interesting though that you find only a single way to interpret my comment...

Where's that eye-rolling emoticon?

EDIT:
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dennisthebadger wrote:
hsquid wrote:
dennisthebadger wrote:
what do i need to do to get me some unpaid interns?
they sound like fun!

Again someone posts something like this - a "joke" where the "funny" part is about how nudge-nudge-wink-wink it would be just great if all us neanderthal males could just go out and forcibly fuck who we wanted and didn't have to worry about those pesky laws against force and coercion.

To save everyone time, we need a concise standardised response that makes it clear that:
1) this is not funny,
2) it's one more exhibit of how widespread, pervasive and culturally accepted this "humour" is, even among people who see nothing offensive and may even be otherwise nice guys
3) We don't want to have this debate again (you know, the one in which a few people loudly assert their right to not be thought boorish when they act boorishly) every time something inane is said along the same lines.

I propose the simple response: "Gary?"


never heard of "subversive affirmation" or "over-idenification", have you?
Interesting though that you find only a single way to interpret my comment...

Where's that eye-rolling emoticon?


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whac3 wrote:
dennisthebadger wrote:
hsquid wrote:
dennisthebadger wrote:
what do i need to do to get me some unpaid interns?
they sound like fun!

Again someone posts something like this - a "joke" where the "funny" part is about how nudge-nudge-wink-wink it would be just great if all us neanderthal males could just go out and forcibly fuck who we wanted and didn't have to worry about those pesky laws against force and coercion.

To save everyone time, we need a concise standardised response that makes it clear that:
1) this is not funny,
2) it's one more exhibit of how widespread, pervasive and culturally accepted this "humour" is, even among people who see nothing offensive and may even be otherwise nice guys
3) We don't want to have this debate again (you know, the one in which a few people loudly assert their right to not be thought boorish when they act boorishly) every time something inane is said along the same lines.

I propose the simple response: "Gary?"


never heard of "subversive affirmation" or "over-idenification", have you?
Interesting though that you find only a single way to interpret my comment...

Where's that eye-rolling emoticon?



Thanks!
 
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Would it be insensitive to point out that unpaid interns probably can't afford a lawyer to bring suit anyway?

This does seem like a loophole begging to be corrected, although there are probably reasons that it exists. If unpaid interns can sue, then volunteers might be able to and then it would become really easy to shut down non-profits by forcing them to defend against frivolous lawsuits.
Well, maybe there should be a measure against frivolous lawsuits in place too. I don't know. Just a thought...
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Unfortunately, any sort of proposal for a measure against a "frivolous" lawsuit would be a battle in itself. Either by people actually concerned about what may be and what may not be labeled frivolous and/or by people who think the idea is ridiculous in its entirety and wish to show so by pressing the matter that how do you really know that your boss isn't looking at your butt while you bend over to tie your shoe?

It's extremely unfortunate, but seen as a not-problem by too many to have anything done about it soon. Hopefully something can be changed to at least extend laws against sexual harassment in the work place to extend to all employees and volunteers paid or not.
 
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Did we learn nothing from Bill and Monica?
Did he make a complaint?
 
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dennisthebadger wrote:
hsquid wrote:
dennisthebadger wrote:
what do i need to do to get me some unpaid interns?
they sound like fun!

Again someone posts something like this - a "joke" where the "funny" part is about how nudge-nudge-wink-wink it would be just great if all us neanderthal males could just go out and forcibly fuck who we wanted and didn't have to worry about those pesky laws against force and coercion.

To save everyone time, we need a concise standardised response that makes it clear that:
1) this is not funny,
2) it's one more exhibit of how widespread, pervasive and culturally accepted this "humour" is, even among people who see nothing offensive and may even be otherwise nice guys
3) We don't want to have this debate again (you know, the one in which a few people loudly assert their right to not be thought boorish when they act boorishly) every time something inane is said along the same lines.

I propose the simple response: "Gary?"


never heard of "subversive affirmation" or "over-idenification", have you?
Interesting though that you find only a single way to interpret my comment...
Given the context of the debate it would be hard to think you mean anything else.
 
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