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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24599921

6,000 re-enactors!
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Never sure what to think in such cases. I mean, the re-enactors
amount to nothing more than a skirmish, yet this is still a pretty
big group to get together.
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Conspiracy of silence, OK?
"Church leaders object to the battle being turned into a game."

Hoho. If they only knew...
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"Local TV is reporting live from the scene as if the battle is actually being fought today."


I wonder how many will tune in and think real battle is taking place.


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Whenever I see something like that, and realise that those 6,000 would be a FRACTION of the forces involved...it just blows the mind to think what an ACTUAL Napoleonic battle would have looked like.
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i think this uses more than 6000 extras.

edit, in fact according to the wiki they had 15000 infantry and 2000 cavalry. It is still however a fraction of those involved historically (just under 200,000).
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Ho many Napoleons in these 6000's? I count at least four...

"Vive Les Empereurs!"
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licinius wrote:
Ho many Napoleons in these 6000's? I count at least four...

"Vive Les Empereurs!"


WOuldn't want to be assassinated and all.
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licinius wrote:
Ho many Napoleons in these 6000's? I count at least four...

"Vive Les Empereurs!"


That's at least four "complexes" loose on the site of the battle.

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I always admire how well-fed these troops appear to be.
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Meisterchow wrote:
I always admire how well-fed these troops appear to be. ;)


They're attempting to give the impression of a "massive army".
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Speaking of reenactors:

The photograph I missed taking, and which I'll regret until my dying day, was at Waterloo. I had just finished walking the battlefield and was headed to the car park to leave, having finished shooting my last roll of film, when, in front of the souvenier store near the cyclorama, stood the proprietor. He was a short, dumpy Belgian dressed immaculately as Napoleon in the undress uniform of the Chasseurs a Cheval of the Imperial Guard. And he was standing there, looking every inch the Emperor, drawing a softie ice cream cone for a child.

"If only I had beaten that salaud Wellington here, I would not be reduced to being a soda jerk!"

And I had shot my last frame of film. Aaaaaargh! All I could do, as I walked past, was say, "Mes homages, majeste." But I wish I'd had just one frame left.cry
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DukeofChutney wrote:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066549/?ref_=nv_sr_4


i think this uses more than 6000 extras.

edit, in fact according to the wiki they had 15000 infantry and 2000 cavalry. It is still however a fraction of those involved historically (just under 200,000).


And "War and Peace" by the same director (Sergei Bondarchuk) used 13,500 soldiers and 1,500 horsemen in recreating Borodino. I haven't seen it in years (the US cut runs almost 400 minutes) but I remember it being an epic production.
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DukeofChutney wrote:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066549/?ref_=nv_sr_4


i think this uses more than 6000 extras.

edit, in fact according to the wiki they had 15000 infantry and 2000 cavalry. It is still however a fraction of those involved historically (just under 200,000).


One of my favorite war movies.
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Arcangeli wrote:
Whenever I see something like that, and realise that those 6,000 would be a FRACTION of the forces involved...it just blows the mind to think what an ACTUAL Napoleonic battle would have looked like.


More blood, gore, tears and death. Literally by a hundredfold.
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"However, Church leaders object to the battle being turned into a game.
They see Sunday's event as tantamount to glorifying the carnage of war"

That's trite coming from organisations that have been responsible for so many wars and brutalities committed against humanity in the name of various deities.
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Snowman wrote:
"However, Church leaders object to the battle being turned into a game.
They see Sunday's event as tantamount to glorifying the carnage of war"

That's trite coming from organisations that have been responsible for so many wars and brutalities committed against humanity in the name of various deities.


I don't think they want to reenact the crusades.
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Thamos von Nostria wrote:
Snowman wrote:
"However, Church leaders object to the battle being turned into a game.
They see Sunday's event as tantamount to glorifying the carnage of war"

That's trite coming from organisations that have been responsible for so many wars and brutalities committed against humanity in the name of various deities.


I don't think they want to reenact the crusades.


Pity. I'd love to see some of the great battles from that era.

Why is it they don't object to movies which represent/portray war?
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calandale wrote:
Thamos von Nostria wrote:
Snowman wrote:
"However, Church leaders object to the battle being turned into a game.
They see Sunday's event as tantamount to glorifying the carnage of war"

That's trite coming from organisations that have been responsible for so many wars and brutalities committed against humanity in the name of various deities.


I don't think they want to reenact the crusades.


Pity. I'd love to see some of the great battles from that era.

Why is it they don't object to movies which represent/portray war?


a) They are too busy objecting to movies portraying sex or religion.
b) Even the dumbest war movie shows at least some aspect of said carnage while the reenactment is more a spectacle of uniforms, marching and firing muskets.
c) War movies run every day, and Leipzig had a big anniversary this year, so Leipzig stood out.

The reenactors are usually also interested in showing the dark sides of the war, the poor conditions in the camps, the primitive field surgery and so on, but it is not really visible during the battle.

I think it is a great idea to deliver a good spectacle to attract an audience which then may be willing to learn something about the actual event and the time when it took place. But it is also important to remind people that the latter is important and the former is actually just a meaningless show.

I watched the fake TV news accompanying the anniversary and they did a good job in balancing lecturing with some action and a good measure of bloody tales, considering the TV audience has zero knowledge about the Napoleonic wars.
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