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Hello,

As per what I read on the newly announced Beagle expansion, it seems that:
1- Portal will be releasing the Beagle expansion in english
2- Portal Beagle expansion won t be compatible with ZMan without sleeving cards

Questions:
1- Do Portal and ZMan edition have different card thickness and back?
2- Is Portal Beagle expansion fully compatible with Portal english edition of Robinson Crusoe?

What are the other differences between ZMan and Portal english editions?
I understand that ZMan edits some texts in the card and rulebook, but that Portal rules are more correct and faithful to the designer rules.

I was considering going for ZMan edition but now i m totally confused and I m thinking I shall try to find Portal english edition.

Thank you very much in advance,
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1) According to Ignacy, they do have different thickness. The mystery cards have different backs in the Portal and Z-man edition.

2) I think so. The VotB expansion is an English version, and compatible with the Portal English edition of the base game.

Regarding the rules, there seem to be a lot of discussion about their interpretation. Actually, Z-man screwed up a very important rule on the night phase in their edition, but it seems that they didn't make a lot of changes rule-wise.

The designer official position is that if a rule is unclear just play the way you feel most comfortable with. Some people take issue at this approach; they like an official position. The new German edition of the base game apparently has revised rules. The availability of these in English is unclear yet...

So if you want to get RC along with VotB, you need the Portal edition in order for it to be 100% compatible. I don't know if there is an official announcement from Z-man about the expansion.

Hope this helps.
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I don't know if there is an official announcement from Z-man about the expansion.


I wouldn't call it "official", but a Z-Man representative stated in one of these threads that they plan to release the VotB expansion in early 2014.
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I understand the Voyage of the Beagle only contains cards for the event deck. These cards have the same backs in the Zman and Portal editions. So the only card differences should be a thickness issue.
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1932f20 wrote:
I understand the Voyage of the Beagle only contains cards for the event deck. These cards have the same backs in the Zman and Portal editions. So the only card differences should be a thickness issue.


Yes - the Portal expansion is also compatible with the ZMan edition, if you sleeve the cards. This is what I will do; my ZMan game is already sleeved.
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Thank you very much for your clarifications!

Is portal english edition still easy to find?
 
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youtch wrote:
Thank you very much for your clarifications!

Is portal english edition still easy to find?


I'm afraid not. The game was very hard to find, even before the release of the Zman's version.
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More about compatibility here:

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1036229/compatibility-with-z...

In summary you simply need to sleeve the event deck to use the Portal expansion with the ZMan base game.

Portal base game is already compatible, but contains more English text errors on cards and in rulebook, than ZMan version.
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Yes - the Portal expansion is also compatible with the ZMan edition, if you sleeve the cards. This is what I will do; my ZMan game is already sleeved.


Hopefully you didnt use the FFG green label sleeves for the big cards as I did? The Portal cards are wider than Z-Man's cards.

So did anybody find any good sleeves that works with both Portal and Zman's versions?
 
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JNorris wrote:


Hopefully you didnt use the FFG green label sleeves for the big cards as I did? The Portal cards are wider than Z-Man's cards.

So did anybody find any good sleeves that works with both Portal and Zman's versions?


I have done Looks like I'll need to investigate a solution when my copy arrives.

I wonder why the card size isn't consistent and why Portal didn't mention this fact when they mentioned different card thickness?

Maybe FFG purple will fit?
 
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nickbolton wrote:
JNorris wrote:


Hopefully you didnt use the FFG green label sleeves for the big cards as I did? The Portal cards are wider than Z-Man's cards.

So did anybody find any good sleeves that works with both Portal and Zman's versions?


I have done Looks like I'll need to investigate a solution when my copy arrives.

I wonder why the card size isn't consistent and why Portal didn't mention this fact when they mentioned different card thickness?

Maybe FFG purple will fit?


Perhaps that's what was meant by thickness? I can totally see some of us non native English speakers mistaking width with thickness...
 
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I just received my copy of the expansion.

Looking for a solution to make it compatible with the Z-man Edition. As mentioned previously the portal edition are wider than the z-man therefore the FFG green sleeves will not fit.
 
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When you say sleeve the portal cards to make them compatible with z-man, do you mean sleeve them in non see through backs?
 
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They have the same backs but the portal cards are wider than z-man cards.

I used the FFG green sleeves but those are not wide enough to fit the portal cards.
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The FFG Purple sleeves work just fine for all event cards. I own the Zman Base and the Portal expansion and the purple sleeves work like a charm. They are slightly wider and longer than the cards but not too much.
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mercurycs wrote:
The FFG Purple sleeves work just fine for all event cards. I own the Zman Base and the Portal expansion and the purple sleeves work like a charm. They are slightly wider and longer than the cards but not too much.


Super, thanks for the info. I will try that solution then =)
 
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