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I haven't been involved in the world of gaming for some time and I'm curious to know what the most popular miniatures game is at the moment.

I assume it must be something from Games Workshop since they seem to have stores all over the place...
 
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i would contest that, "current most popular" and "most played" are very different, your title is a bit hard to understand.

miniatures game would have to be clarified I think, I assume by "miniatures game" you mean things like warhammer and warmachine and not just games with a lot of miniatures or a wargame, that commonly uses counters to represent figures. Some might even contest that something like 4th edition D&D is effectively a miniatures game of 4-6 on 1.

if you actually mean "current most popular" I'd actually be willing to bet it's x-wing, which is extremely popular all over the world right now. If you mean "most played over history", then thats really tough and really depends on your definition of a miniatures game. by a modern definition I'm guessing it is in fact WHFB or 40k, but I think they are loosing ground by the minute. (thats coming from a long time GW ex-fan)
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I think it's a toss up between X-Wing Miniatures and 40k. 40k might have slightly more "hardcore" adoption.

I think Warmachine is rising in popularity, but still lags quite far behind 40k.
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I'm not sure those stats are collected in any meaningful manner. The best you can go by is sales, using an assumption that sales must eventually equate to plays at an undetermined rate likely to be close enough across all games as to call even.

Warhammer 40k accounts for something like 70% of Games Workshops revenue, which is in the +$300 million range annually.

X-Wing, while quite popular, isn't quite at the scale of the Warhammer games...yet.
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Interesting...

I guess I mean "most played at the moment". I'm interested in building miniature scenery and I'd like to know where the biggest market is. I was going to build some Star Wars miniatures scenery but I'm seeing that Warhhamer Fantasy and Warhammer 40 000 have much larger fan bases...
 
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I'm not sure those stats are collected in any meaningful manner. The best you can go by is sales, using an assumption that sales must eventually equate to plays at an undetermined rate likely to be close enough across all games as to call even.

Warhammer 40k accounts for something like 70% of Games Workshops revenue, which is in the +$300 million range annually.

X-Wing, while quite popular, isn't quite at the scale of the Warhammer games...yet.


Going strictly by sales is a tad bit misleading, as an average 40k army will cost (MSRP) 500 dollars at the low end. Where an average X-Wing force might be 200 at most, and that's paying MSRP for only a tie swarm + a core.

 
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So cut GW's revenue numbers in half to $150million+ per year to compensate for force size you still arrive at the same result.
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Interesting...

I guess I mean "most played at the moment". I'm interested in building miniature scenery and I'd like to know where the biggest market is. I was going to build some Star Wars miniatures scenery but I'm seeing that Warhhamer Fantasy and Warhammer 40 000 have much larger fan bases...


Given that nearly every scenery company I've seen primarily targets train hobbyists or Warhammer players, that's seems like a safe bet.
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Just did an Ebay search.

Warhammer 40k = 7000 results

X-Wing Miniature game = 128 results

hmmm....
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YoricksGhost wrote:
Interesting...

I guess I mean "most played at the moment". I'm interested in building miniature scenery and I'd like to know where the biggest market is. I was going to build some Star Wars miniatures scenery but I'm seeing that Warhhamer Fantasy and Warhammer 40 000 have much larger fan bases...


The Warhammer games would be the direction to go. But as a bit of advice, I haven't seen (in the over 10 years I've been playing Warhammer and 40k) a lot of money to be made in the scenery/terrain business. Most people will make their own, use whatever the store has available (often made or donated), or go without. At conventions, heavily discounted terrain will sell sometimes, but even then, not a lot.

Not saying not to do it, but just bear in mind that it might not bring much in the way of money.
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Here in Mexico everyone seems to play Heroclix, It's huge here.
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... or a wargame, that commonly uses counters to represent figures.


While many minis gamers claim (rightly) they are wargamers,
no one playing a hex and counter game claims they are playing minis.

A few people will play minis systems using stand in counters, but they
are still playing minis games.
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I'm guessing it is 40K by a long shot. If you go into game store that is into miniatures, the vast amount of product is for 40K.
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YoricksGhost wrote:
Just did an Ebay search.

Warhammer 40k = 7000 results

X-Wing Miniature game = 128 results

hmmm....


Jeez, even airfix soldiers (commonly used as historical minis) pull in over 1K.
And good old Ral Partha comes quite close to Whorehammer.
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I'm guessing it is 40K by a long shot. If you go into game store that is into miniatures, the vast amount of product is for 40K.


I would agree - 40K is the most commonly played by a wide margin.

If you are looking to make terrain to sell as a business I would focus on the more generic stuff however, at least to start with. 40K has a pretty distinct theme for buildings with its gothic future, where 25-32mm hills, woods, and so forth can span multiple systems. Also consider that a game like Infinity is very popular AND requires a heavier terrain density than 40K. There are several companies that focus on generic futuristic civilian and military structures for that reason.

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calandale wrote:
YoricksGhost wrote:
Just did an Ebay search.

Warhammer 40k = 7000 results

X-Wing Miniature game = 128 results

hmmm....


Jeez, even airfix soldiers (commonly used as historical minis) pull in over 1K.
And good old Ral Partha comes quite close to Whorehammer.


True, but Airfix and Ral Partha are not specific to one game system.
 
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MillertimeRC wrote:
calandale wrote:
YoricksGhost wrote:
Just did an Ebay search.

Warhammer 40k = 7000 results

X-Wing Miniature game = 128 results

hmmm....


Jeez, even airfix soldiers (commonly used as historical minis) pull in over 1K.
And good old Ral Partha comes quite close to Whorehammer.


True, but Airfix and Ral Partha are not specific to one game system.



eBay searches might not be the best metric to see what is most played. I'm sure lots of that stuff up there is people trying to get rid of their stuff (by definition not playing anymore!). Also, 50k armies have more pieces than Star Wars! (And a crap ton more releases).

Still think 40k is the most owned/played.
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Yeah, it's probably 40k.

Though Hordes/Warmachine gets played way more around where I live.

But if you're just making terrain . . . probably fantasy or sci-fi will sell just as well. If it's done nicely and at a good price point.

I wonder if historical terrain is harder-- don't those games tend to vary in scale a little bit more?
 
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When you consider how long Warhammer has been around compared to X-wing, I think they have had more time to build up a fanbase. Also, if you invested all your money in building and painting an army you might keep playing rather than switching to a cheaper, lighter game.

In my city we have 4 major game stores. One is a Trading Card (Magic: the Gathering) shop, one is a roleplaying game shop (with a selection of boardgames to stay relevant plus miniatures - of which GW and 40k are a good portion), one is a boardgame store (and a recipient of most of my disposable income now), and the final one is a wargame shop with a few tables to run traditional miniature battles. The wargaming store is dominated by GW products, with hex-and-chit games making up a large portion also.

What I am trying to say is there is no issue getting GW rules and miniatures in my area, and I can find players. I hear it is more popular in Europe rather than in the States - so I think 40k is dominant.

Also, was it here or on /r/boardgames (a sub-reddit for those who don't recognize the format) that there was a link that showed 40k being one of the most popular by far wargames?
 
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I am both a Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer player, and I have to say these 2 are the most popular miniature tabletop game worldwide. HOWEVER, you can retire from this hobby even if you have a large collection. I have "retired" from this hobby despite having 6 armies (4 40K, 2 WHFB) ever since I have re-entered the boardgaming hobby. I find up setting up for a GW game to be much of a hassle these days compared to boardgaming.
 
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Warhammer 40k, but that probably will not be reflected on this site.
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Warhammer 40K gets played??
I thought it was just an excuse for elitists with too much money to bitch about "lesser" peoples collections and paints...
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Warhammer 40K gets played??
I thought it was just an excuse for elitists with too much money to bitch about "lesser" peoples collections and paints...

Just like board games, huh? shake
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I don't know... when I walk around game conventions that are minis dedicated (or mostly so) the stuff that dominates is De Bellis Antiquitatis. The Warhammer crowd is there but in great minority.
 
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