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Yesterday I spent 4 hours being questioned about my cycling accident.

I know now why there is such a hatred for lawyers.

It’s like being the target in a knife throwing show.
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Geosphere wrote:
It’s like being the target in knife throwing 101.
FTFY
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Geosphere wrote:
Yesterday I spent 4 hours being questioned about my cycling accident.

What... what role were these guys in? Are you suing the city for installing cyclist pit traps, or is your insurance company trying to determine whether having your face reassembled was elective surgery, or what?

Around hour three:
You: Wait... what's the purpose of these questions again?
Lawyer 1: Oh, we just love hearing about this stuff. Now, let's go back to the moment your face hit the asphalt.
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Who were they working for?

Also how long till RSP?
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Are you suing the city for installing cyclist pit traps

and
kuhrusty wrote:
is your insurance company trying to determine whether having your face reassembled was elective surgery

are both angles being worked.

kuhrusty wrote:

Lawyer 1: Oh, we just love hearing about this stuff. Now, let's go back to the moment your face hit the asphalt.


Absolutely. Over and over.
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slatersteven wrote:
Who were they working for?


Department of Transportation.
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I've been deposed twice. In the first case I was a Good Samaritan who rendered medical aid to a semiconscious woman, who then went on to sue someone else. What blew me away was that I was treated with such hostility by BOTH SIDES of the case. There was also lots of repetitive questioning, trying to trip me up on language, and semantic games a la "What is the definition of "is"?"
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Geosphere wrote:
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Who were they working for?


Department of Transportation.
So in essence they are only doing what they are paid to do. I have no desire to defend lawyers, but at the end of the day it is fact they are only doing the job they are asked to do. The problem is the system, not the people who operate within it.

We need a less adversarial justice system. One on which the objective is to find the truth, not win the case.
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Geosphere wrote:
Absolutely. Over and over.


I've dealt with a lot of lawyers in the patent world. And the language games/thought process is not fun. But at least I'm not subjected to the over and over game.
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Suing the city is a difficult proposition(unless you are shot by a police officer), do they think they have a solid case?
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MWChapel wrote:
Suing the city is a difficult proposition(unless you are shot by a police officer), do they think they have a solid case?


If they is my team, probably.
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Geosphere wrote:
MWChapel wrote:
Suing the city is a difficult proposition(unless you are shot by a police officer), do they think they have a solid case?


If they is my team, probably.


"Oh look, a pothole... I think I'll almost kill myself for new teeth."

... yeah... okay...

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As a very good friend of mine says:

"You never, ever want to interface with the legal system in any way, shape or form."

He's a lawyer.
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slatersteven wrote:
... I have no desire to defend lawyers, but at the end of the day it is fact they are only doing the job they are asked to do.
The problem is the system, not the people who operate within it ...


And who designed that system?

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( wait for it )

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LAWYERS!

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kswingruber wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
... I have no desire to defend lawyers, but at the end of the day it is fact they are only doing the job they are asked to do.
The problem is the system, not the people who operate within it ...


And who designed that system?

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( wait for it )

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LAWYERS!

No, they did not design the system they are a product of it. Law (and courts) existed before lawyers. Lawyers were created because of the complexity if our legal system.
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slatersteven wrote:
No, they did not design the system they are a product of it. Law (and courts) existed before lawyers. Lawyers were created because of the complexity if our legal system.

I think it's more of a cycle. Lawyers are needed due to the complexity of the system, but a lot of the system was created by lawyers-turned-into-politicians, who then use their 'expertise' to continue to make more confusing and complex laws. One could argue that they are basically authoring their own profession's job security with the way some of these laws are written.
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sigmazero13 wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
No, they did not design the system they are a product of it. Law (and courts) existed before lawyers. Lawyers were created because of the complexity if our legal system.

I think it's more of a cycle. Lawyers are needed due to the complexity of the system, but a lot of the system was created by lawyers-turned-into-politicians, who then use their 'expertise' to continue to make more confusing and complex laws. One could argue that they are basically authoring their own profession's job security with the way some of these laws are written.
That s not the origins of the system, merely it's maintenance. It could be argued...we are drifting into RSp territory, I will not go further.
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Whatever it is, some side beside me is going to make money off the fact that I now have a lisp.
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Lawyers have a very simple set of motivations: They want to get paid. The rest of the legal system derives from that simple assumption.
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I used to work for lawyers, and have one for a brother. I can totally agree.

On the flip side, I did once have to sit through a deposition, in which a multibillionaire former CEO, who has an engineering degree from a technology school, and who founded and lead several computer tech development firms, testified again and again that he basically had no idea how to use computers, or any understanding of how they worked. This was to bolster his defense that he couldn't have possibly have committed some (whatever it was, stock fraud or something) as he didn't know how to use computers.

I suspect a lot of the folks lawyers regularly interact with are excellent matches, morally, for the lawyers themselves. Just like when I have had the occasion to go to traffic court for tickets, where the judge would look at my record, look at my mode of dress (dressed up for it, unlike anyone else there), and ask me "why are you here?!?"
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ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
WITNESS: No.
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ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
ATTORNEY: But could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law.

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A bus carrying 97 lawyers plunged over a cliff. All were killed.

The tragedy - there were 3 empty seats.
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I suspect a lot of the folks lawyers regularly interact with are excellent matches, morally, for the lawyers themselves.


This. Many, many times this.

I do work with lawyers. Some of them are very, very dodgy. But no matter how dodgy I think they are, they never manage to outdo the clients, especially the ones who insist that they are upstanding, respectable businessmen and pillars of the community (and the rest of the community would probably agree, more's the pity...). Plain old straightforward criminals are surprisingly honest (and honest to themselves), even if they have skewed attitudes and values. Businessmen, though...
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Chanfan wrote:
I suspect a lot of the folks lawyers regularly interact with are excellent matches, morally, for the lawyers themselves.


This. Many, many times this.

I do work with lawyers. Some of them are very, very dodgy. But no matter how dodgy I think they are, they never manage to outdo the clients, especially the ones who insist that they are upstanding, respectable businessmen and pillars of the community (and the rest of the community would probably agree, more's the pity...). Plain old straightforward criminals are surprisingly honest (and honest to themselves), even if they have skewed attitudes and values. Businessmen, though...
My whole point (other then the fact you left out politicians).
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JasonJ0 wrote:
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I suspect a lot of the folks lawyers regularly interact with are excellent matches, morally, for the lawyers themselves.


This. Many, many times this.

I do work with lawyers. Some of them are very, very dodgy. But no matter how dodgy I think they are, they never manage to outdo the clients, especially the ones who insist that they are upstanding, respectable businessmen and pillars of the community (and the rest of the community would probably agree, more's the pity...). Plain old straightforward criminals are surprisingly honest (and honest to themselves), even if they have skewed attitudes and values. Businessmen, though...
My whole point (other then the fact you left out politicians).


He said criminals...

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