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Ulrich Hergl
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I want to invest in stocks. Traditionally my best investments were stocks to which I had some kind of personal relation like buying Apple stocks when the company wasn't as hip as it is now.

Do you know from which companies there are stocks?
Would you recommend to invest in boardgame companies?
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I would not recommend investing in games companies, more then half my collection (of good games) comes from defunct companies (and soe at one time the biggest names in gaming).
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I'm probably not the person to ask. My portfolio is topheavy in scratchoffs.
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I believe the evil overlord known as Games Workshop Ltd. is traded, if you want to sell your soul.
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www_Mischraum_de wrote:
I want to invest in stocks. Traditionally my best investments were stocks to which I had some kind of personal relation like buying Apple stocks when the company wasn't as hip as it is now.

Do you know from which companies there are stocks?
Would you recommend to invest in boardgame companies?


http://www.amazon.com/Fooled-Randomness-Hidden-Chance-Market...

http://www.amazon.com/Exchange-Traded-Funds-Dummies-Russell-...
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www_Mischraum_de wrote:
I want to invest in stocks. Traditionally my best investments were stocks to which I had some kind of personal relation like buying Apple stocks when the company wasn't as hip as it is now.

Do you know from which companies there are stocks?
Would you recommend to invest in boardgame companies?


If you are asking this question my answer to you would be not to.

Stock selection shouldn't really be based on I like this field.

A lot of games companies seem to be private entities, meaning you would need to contact shareholders to buy any shares in them.
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BaBang wrote:
www_Mischraum_de wrote:
I want to invest in stocks. Traditionally my best investments were stocks to which I had some kind of personal relation like buying Apple stocks when the company wasn't as hip as it is now.

Do you know from which companies there are stocks?
Would you recommend to invest in boardgame companies?


http://www.amazon.com/Fooled-Randomness-Hidden-Chance-Market...

http://www.amazon.com/Exchange-Traded-Funds-Dummies-Russell-...
What I thought about is also that maybe someone decide to keep a company "which they like" for longer whereas some people (especially new, guys and young? =P) seem to want to change stocks often.
 
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aliquis wrote:
BaBang wrote:
www_Mischraum_de wrote:
I want to invest in stocks. Traditionally my best investments were stocks to which I had some kind of personal relation like buying Apple stocks when the company wasn't as hip as it is now.

Do you know from which companies there are stocks?
Would you recommend to invest in boardgame companies?


http://www.amazon.com/Fooled-Randomness-Hidden-Chance-Market...

http://www.amazon.com/Exchange-Traded-Funds-Dummies-Russell-...
What I thought about is also that maybe someone decide to keep a company "which they like" for longer whereas some people (especially new, guys and young? =P) seem to want to change stocks often.


I claim to be more or less emotionless with investments. But I do think with some knowledge about the products I am more capable than investment managers that underperform vs. Dow Jones etc. It is not about liking the field but having more real knowledge than investors who are not part of a community.

My main problem is: when you google about boardgame companies and stocks you only seem to get sites with boardgames about stock markets.
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I found a similar thread here on BGG[1] and am just pulling in that list here:

Hasbro: NASDAQ:HAS
Mattel: NASDAQ:MAT
Games Workshop: LON:GAW
Bandai: TYO:7832
Konami: TYO:9766

[1]: http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1030692/publicly-traded-game...
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That's something! Thanks!
 
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You're only going to find the big guys like Hasbro and Games Workshop are publicly traded. Most boardgame companies are way too small to have shares available; generally they're either sole proprietorships or, at most, partnerships.
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I read your question, looked into it, and I cannot find a concise set of rules for trading. There seems to be some discrepancy in fees, too many strategies which all seem to conflict with one another, and even without playing, I feel that the randomness of it all will not go over well with my play group.
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Any advise regarding this now in 2016?
 
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rialtoma wrote:
Any advise regarding this now in 2016?


Most companies are still single owner or partnerships. Only the super huge mass market stuff might have shares on the public stock market, but in all likelihood, shareholders would hamper companies more than benefit them if they aren't already one of the big ones. They are profit driven this way vs creatively driven so the goal changes from trying to make the next few big hits to trying to make the most profit from what guarantees sales. Note most are much more diverse than just games.

 
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rialtoma wrote:
Any advise regarding this now in 2016?

"Plastics."
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It is almost always a bad idea to invest in specific companies or even specific industries unless you have (a) money lying around that is your "fun money" and you don't mind losing it, or (b) incredibly deep knowledge of the industry.

For board games, there is really not enough money to be made, or you'd see high-end funds having board game specialists just like they have investment specialists in energy, commodities, biotech, etc.

So that relegates it to (a). In which case, knock yourself out since it's just for fun anyway.

Although rather than stocks, you'd probably be better off being a silent partner in a store or boutique publisher.
 
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Abiezer Coppe wrote:
You're only going to find the big guys like Hasbro and Games Workshop are publicly traded. Most boardgame companies are way too small to have shares available; generally they're either sole proprietorships or, at most, partnerships.


I read just the other day that Cool Mini or Not is now publicly traded. If I remember right they are traded on the Hong Kong stock exchange. I also came across some information in the Tasty Minstrel newsletter that they will be seeking investor funding in the near future, but this is still in the works, and seeking outside funding is not the same as being publicly traded.

Edit: But TMG was essentially soliciting this funding from their customers. My point being, it's an opportunity for the average joe to invest in a boardgame company.
 
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Think I have heard about it in Board game breakfast, that's why I thought about it
 
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I'm just starting to dip my toes into the stock market.
So far it is just 'for fun' i.e. I don't mind that much if I lose my money so board gaming seems to be the perfect fit for this.

I was looking into investing in Asmodee and wonder if I've understood things correct if I say that this stock:
https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/RF:FP

is what you should buy to 'own a part' of Asmodee?
I'm basing this on that they seem to own approx 80% of Asmodee:
https://www.eurazeo.com/en/societe/asmodee/

 
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TIM0THY wrote:
Abiezer Coppe wrote:
You're only going to find the big guys like Hasbro and Games Workshop are publicly traded. Most boardgame companies are way too small to have shares available; generally they're either sole proprietorships or, at most, partnerships.


I read just the other day that Cool Mini or Not is now publicly traded.

Am I reading this chart correct if I'm saying Cool Mini or Not has tanked on the stock market?
http://www.aastocks.com/en/stock/BasicChart.aspx?symbol=0827...

Buy opportunity perhaps? whistle
 
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Actually GW seems not to be such a bad choice, incredibly long time on the market, going up in recent time. Still, investing in some other industry would be better surely.
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This may come across as harsh, but it should be said. Anyone coming onto this website looking for stock advise should almost certainly not buy individual stocks. For most people, the best stock investment is to invest in low fee index funds against a broad universe of stocks such as the S&P 500. Do this in a tax advantaged way (401k, IRA, etc) and forget about it for many years and the outcome will be much better than buying individual stocks.

For those who don't heed this advice, do not in any circumstance invest in any micro cap, closely held companies. Risks such as, extreme volatility, lack of fiduciary controls, lack of liquidity (which coincides often with completely off market valuations) and outright fraud are much too large of risks.
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Bought some "Eurazeo SA" (the company that owns most of Asmodee) right around the time of my post in March 2017. So far they are up 43,46%. meeple

I'm very intrigued by buying Cool Mini or Not, but that stock doesn't seem to be moving at all.
 
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ique wrote:
I found a similar thread here on BGG[1] and am just pulling in that list here:

Hasbro: NASDAQ:HAS
Mattel: NASDAQ:MAT
Games Workshop: LON:GAW
Bandai: TYO:7832
Konami: TYO:9766

[1]: http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1030692/publicly-traded-game...



If you had invested into each of these back when this post was made, your money would almost be doubled. Only one of them lost value. But meh, most of us bought bitcoin around that year, so doubling up is nothing
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borsook wrote:
Actually GW seems not to be such a bad choice, incredibly long time on the market, going up in recent time. Still, investing in some other industry would be better surely.


GW was the best performing stock in the UK in 2017.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-05/warhammer...
 
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