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The words “NOT SEE” on a license plate may not appear offensive — until you say it (sounds like Nazi) and display a swastika above it.

But that’s what Shawn Calpito, of San Diego,Calif., chose for his car’s plates.


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/11/not-see-licens...

I hear he is also going to lose his job, I wonder if the ACLU will get involved. the man is not Caucasian either, strange.

The most offensive part is a bus driver who owns a 7 series BWM , seriously how much do they pay bus drivers in San Diego..
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Wow, it's clear how that got approved. That's fairly clever.

I would be surprised if public justice doesn't take its toll in parking lots though.
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Wow, it's clear how that got approved. That's fairly clever.

I would be surprised if public justice doesn't take its toll in parking lots though.


The one I saw was "WEDLVR." When you get a custom plate, there's a place where you can say what the plate is supposed to say. They must have written "We Deliver" instead of "Weed Lover."
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jeremycobert wrote:
The most offensive part is a bus driver who owns a 7 series BWM , seriously how much do they pay bus drivers in San Diego..


More importantly, does he get a seven-digit severance package if he turns out to be a not-good bus driver? Just let the free market determine what he's worth, would ya?

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Who's to say his immediate relative that he drives around all the time could be blind? jus' saying... But yeah, here's where the right to free speech gets yanked from another civilian example.
 
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But yeah, here's where the right to free speech gets yanked from another civilian example.


Not really. He is still allowed to have the swastika and and any other hate speech bumper stickers he wants. Vanity plates have restrictions and rules since they come from the government and are a privilege, not a right, much like the privilege of driving.
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Geosphere wrote:
Wow, it's clear how that got approved. That's fairly clever.

I would be surprised if public justice doesn't take its toll in parking lots though.


Justice? That's your idea of what that would be?
 
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"Not See" doesn't sound like Nazi at all. I wouldn't even made the connection without the picture:

 
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I guess they pulled the plates so they could mail them Ron and Rand Paul.

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license plates are not a privilege they are mandated. Nazi isn't foul language, it is a political statement which happens to be unpopular.

I say, LET idiots advertise their idiocy. Those plates will come back to haunt him. Justice. I agree.

This would be fine, but this is America, and if the DMV doesn't pull the plates, when somebody does inflict 'justice' on the car, he'll probably sue the DMV for letting him put the plates on his car.
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“It’s racism in the same way that the Southern flag is a symbol of racism to African-American descendants. It’s hate speech,”

In the same sense that a group of people 'choose' to see it one way and take offense at it.

But they couldn't list something like "Black Power t-shirts" as being racist.. or "Hawaiian Pride".. or "Smart Mexican".. or any number of other things that someone 'can' choose to be offended by and see as racist.

I don't choose to see those things as hate speech, I see them as people being open and proud about their heritage or beliefs. They're welcome to that. If we look for offense, we'll find it everywhere. If we dwell on finding offense everywhere, how miserable will our lives be?
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"Not See" doesn't sound like Nazi at all. I wouldn't even made the connection without the picture:


Since the URL link was indeed to an ABC News video news story and it was a video news story to begin with, the visual of the Nazi swastika symbol directly above the "NOT SEE" license plate was there and all too apparent from the outset.

Now that you know that and have since seen it in its proper context, what is your opinion?

 
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ShreveportLAGamer wrote:

Now that you know that and have since seen it in its proper context, what is your opinion?


I don't think this photo is legit, I read that the red and swastika was photoshopped into the picture to show the plate in context of the original complaint.

Even an ignorant racist is not dumb enough to paint over a 7 series BMW.

 
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Edit I wonder if dmvsucks plates would be allowed? Actually I don't wonder that. I wonder if a freedom of speech case could be made.

Too many letters. You'd have to do DMVSUX or something like that. I know that in California, you can have up to seven letters and one space. I don't know of any state where you can have eight letters.

In recent years, they've also added the option to include certain special characters: heart, plus sign, a hand, a star, maybe one or two others.
 
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Some states now offer vanity plates with the first letter of the state on the left....so just lob off the first letter of any naughty word that starts with the same letter and walla.
 
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NUT SEE would have been more appropriate - somebody at the DMV dropped the ball.
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monkeyhandz wrote:
"Not See" doesn't sound like Nazi at all.


Not in Scotland; in most US accents it's pretty obvious without the picture once you say it out loud.
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jeremycobert wrote:
The most offensive part is a bus driver who owns a 7 series BWM , seriously how much do they pay bus drivers in San Diego..

It's only an E65, 2001-2004.
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jeremycobert wrote:
ShreveportLAGamer wrote:

Now that you know that and have since seen it in its proper context, what is your opinion?

I don't think this photo is legit.

Even if you thought that the photograph might not be legit, are you saying that the visuals of the ABC News video news story and its accompanying text story were not legitimate?



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I read that the red and swastika was photo-shopped into the picture to show the plate in context of the original complaint.

What supposedly reputable source are you citing that alleged that the photograph was PhotoShopped?


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Even an ignorant racist is not dumb enough to paint over a 7 series BMW.

Except perhaps when he/she has a chip-on-his/her-shoulder point to make about his/her beliefs of the supremacy of his/her own skin color over that of others.

So please do again try to answer my question in context of the already-confirmed-and-verified factuality of the ABC News Story without further evasiveness: Now that you know that and have since seen the story in its proper context, what is your opinion about the person who chose a vanity license plate whose alphabetic letters approximated phonetically the pronunciation of the word "Nazi"?
 
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toober wrote:
But yeah, here's where the right to free speech gets yanked from another civilian example.


Not really. He is still allowed to have the swastika and and any other hate speech bumper stickers he wants. Vanity plates have restrictions and rules since they come from the government and are a privilege, not a right, much like the privilege of driving.
license plates are not a privilege they are mandated. Nazi isn't foul language, it is a political statement which happens to be unpopular.

I say, LET idiots advertise their idiocy. Those plates will come back to haunt him. Justice. I agree.

Edit I wonder if dmvsucks plates would be allowed? Actually I don't wonder that. I wonder if a freedom of speech case could be made.



License plates are mandated, not vanity plates.
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monkeyhandz wrote:
"Not See" doesn't sound like Nazi at all. I wouldn't even made the connection without the picture:

Having difficulty with this too, I think the intent was clear, it's just their a retard (there's a surprise). I think it's was meant to say Nazi, but it's not definite.
 
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jeremycobert wrote:
ShreveportLAGamer wrote:

Now that you know that and have since seen it in its proper context, what is your opinion?


I don't think this photo is legit, I read that the red and swastika was photoshopped into the picture to show the plate in context of the original complaint.

Even an ignorant racist is not dumb enough to paint over a 7 series BMW.

Never underestimate the stupid.
 
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Never underestimate the stupid.


I stand corrected.... that is just plain hurtful.yuk
 
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