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A.T. Selvaggio
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I am interested in finding a medieval warfare system similar in complexity to Decision Games' Battles of the Ancient World. I like to have a system that would give me a smattering of historical simulation and give me the overall feel of the battle. I have tried Men of Iron, but it just has not grabbed me. I also tried the Swords of Sovereignty series. Both of those system weary me a bit with DRMs.

Any thoughts?
 
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Ancient Battles Deluxe, despite its name, also covers many medieval and dark-age battles.
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sdiberar wrote:
Ancient Battles Deluxe, despite its name, also covers many medieval and dark-age battles.


I did try that system. Two strikes against it: 1. The components, maps and counters, are ugly (perhaps it will get an upgrade); 2. The melee system drives me nuts.
 
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Dunno 'bout GBAW, but the Men of Iron games are reasonably simple.

For a little lighter, there's the SPI Great Medieval Battles
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A couple to try:

Au fil de l'épée is a series from Vae Victis. Originally in French but there are English translations. The rules are online, so you can check them out and see if you like them. Vae Victis also does the Champs de Bataille system which uses a system similar to the De Bellis Multitudinis miniatures game. You should be able to download these rules as well.

Royalists & Roundheads System. Unfortunately, the BGG system name is based on their English Civil War rules, but there are modules going back as far as the 1000's including the Hastings period and the Crusades. This series is long out of print, but these games show up on eBay all the time.

I was going to suggest BattleLore, but I see you already own it. My last couple of medieval battles have been playing BattleLore with the medieval rules in BattleLore: The Hundred Years' War – Crossbows & Polearms and BattleLore: Code of Chivalry and using 15mm figures.

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Simplified Great Battles of History system... Sure it has many more ancient than medieval titles, but the system works fine for the medieval era.
 
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[q="kentreuber"]A couple to try:

Au fil de l'épée is a series from Vae Victis. Originally in French but there are English translations. The rules are online, so you can check them out and see if you like them. Vae Victis also does the Champs de Bataille system which uses a system similar to the De Bellis Multitudinis miniatures game. You should be able to download these rules as well.

Royalists & Roundheads System. Unfortunately, the BGG system name is based on their English Civil War rules, but there are modules going back as far as the 1000's including the Hastings period and the Crusades. This series is long out of print, but these games show up on eBay all the time.

I was going to suggest BattleLore, but I see you already own it. My last couple of medieval battles have been playing BattleLore with the medieval rules in BattleLore: The Hundred Years' War – Crossbows & Polearms and BattleLore: Code of Chivalry and using 15mm figures.

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Hmmm...Royalists and Roundheads looks interesting.
 
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atsgamer wrote:
I am interested in finding a medieval warfare system similar in complexity to Decision Games' Battles of the Ancient World. I like to have a system that would give me a smattering of historical simulation and give me the overall feel of the battle. I have tried Men of Iron, but it just has not grabbed me. I also tried the Swords of Sovereignty series. Both of those system weary me a bit with DRMs.

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I would suggest trying a few games of 'Men of Iron'. The DRM's become second nature after a few plays ... You are not going to find many games simpler, new games are coming out and there is quite a following in the series.
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De Bellis Antiquitatis is a set of minis rules rather than a boardgame, but it may be the sort of thing you're looking for. Very playable, clean, simple rules.
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jeb123 wrote:
atsgamer wrote:
I am interested in finding a medieval warfare system similar in complexity to Decision Games' Battles of the Ancient World. I like to have a system that would give me a smattering of historical simulation and give me the overall feel of the battle. I have tried Men of Iron, but it just has not grabbed me. I also tried the Swords of Sovereignty series. Both of those system weary me a bit with DRMs.

Any thoughts?


I would suggest trying a few games of 'Men of Iron'. The DRM's become second nature after a few plays ... You are not going to find many games simpler, new games are coming out and there is quite a following in the series.


Maybe it was just the battle I was doing. Falkirk is not that exciting.
 
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calandale wrote:
Dunno 'bout GBAW, but the Men of Iron games are reasonably simple.

I've only played Infidel, but based on that, I'd second Men of Iron. Easy to get into, quick and fun to play, and yet enough meat on the bones to satisfy the discerning wargamer.
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I counsel you Guelphs and Ghibellines
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atsgamer wrote:
jeb123 wrote:
atsgamer wrote:
I am interested in finding a medieval warfare system similar in complexity to Decision Games' Battles of the Ancient World. I like to have a system that would give me a smattering of historical simulation and give me the overall feel of the battle. I have tried Men of Iron, but it just has not grabbed me. I also tried the Swords of Sovereignty series. Both of those system weary me a bit with DRMs.

Any thoughts?


I would suggest trying a few games of 'Men of Iron'. The DRM's become second nature after a few plays ... You are not going to find many games simpler, new games are coming out and there is quite a following in the series.


Maybe it was just the battle I was doing. Falkirk is not that exciting.


No. It's not. If you have MOI, try one of the battles where
both sides can move. If not, Infidel is probably even more interesting,
with more focus on true medieval battles. MOI was meant to showcase a
peculiar transition.
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Good counsel Enrico and point well taken regarding purpose of MOI.
 
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Peter Pariseau wrote:
De Bellis Antiquitatis is a set of minis rules rather than a boardgame, but it may be the sort of thing you're looking for. Very playable, clean, simple rules.


I learned it just using card bases with no minis, and you only use 12 bases a side.
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If you're up for an older game find a copy of SPI's "Viking". There is also the somewhat more recent "Men at Arms" also by SPI. The latter can be found easily and is usually inexpensive.

If you're up for a block game try Columbia's Crusader Rex.
 
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I find Viking and all similar old SPI titles quite poor as games.

Cry Havoc on the other hand is a great system, if you are willing to go all the way down to single man counters. Harder to find, to be sure.
 
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Cry Havoc on the other hand is a great system, if you are willing to go all the way down to single man counters. Harder to find, to be sure.
I agree. Great game.
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Dude, if you don't like Au fil de l'épée or Men of Iron Series you may be a bit out of luck. Those are great systems, and are pretty easy once you get the hang of them. Any more simplicity, and you'd definitely lose something.

I'd suggest giving them another try, as I was searching for the same thing as you, and found both systems to be exactly what I was looking for.
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lucasbrooks wrote:
Dude, if you don't like Au fil de l'épée or Men of Iron Series you may be a bit out of luck. Those are great systems, and are pretty easy once you get the hang of them. Any more simplicity, and you'd definitely lose something.

I'd suggest giving them another try, as I was searching for the same thing as you, and found both systems to be exactly what I was looking for.



Yeah, I think I will give MoI another run, but use the Infidel game instead. I have also purchased a couple of the 3W games by Markham.
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lucasbrooks wrote:
Dude, if you don't like Au fil de l'épée or Men of Iron Series you may be a bit out of luck. Those are great systems, and are pretty easy once you get the hang of them. Any more simplicity, and you'd definitely lose something.

I'd suggest giving them another try, as I was searching for the same thing as you, and found both systems to be exactly what I was looking for.



Yeah, I think I will give MoI another run, but use the Infidel game instead. I have also purchased a couple of the 3W games by Markham.

The DRMs become second nature after awhile, and they represent the difference in arms, terrain, etc, so it creates some great options for different tactics. There are new rules posted on the GMT site that reflect the clarification made in the Infidel rulebook, and there are updated editions for both MoI and Infidel, so make sure to print those out as it will help you learn. Have fun!!!
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I found Men of Iron to be incredibly boring: too simplistic, unbalanced, lopsided and quirky. Thanks to this thread I may track down a copy of Guelphs and Ghibellines, though. Looks beautiful.
 
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